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I have also thought about combining table tennis with dance, movement and balance for younger children. A bit like gymnastics for very small children where they first learn how to move, use their feet, balance and body before everything becomes about hitting the ball. So I would really like to hear...

May I ask why she plays with LP? She might have a better future with double inverted . As it is, she is very like me in play, although better, but i am 75 . . darucla , Don't feel bad. I was also brainwashed by the ITTF just like you. Until a few years ago I also believed that everyone should start...

Some quick notes 1. Unless it is a no spin serve , every back spin or top spin serve should ideally have another component > heavy side spin , breaking either to the left or or right. This side pin component is usually one of the most neglected aspects at lower levels 2. In general , for a back spi...

For those who may not be aware, there is no limit on the width, length or the thickness of a table tennis blade. (Players often confuse the maximum limits on the rubber thickness with blade thickness or blade width & length) The major limiting factor if you want a larger blade is that you may no...

Personally I do not have a problem with the "close-to-the-table" blocking style. It is especially important for older players though it is indeed a tactical style for younger players as well including at the pro levels (though mostly women & girls) . However what I have a huge problem ...

Many of you already know that ITTF is desperately trying to turn table tennis into pickleball with things like moving towards 44 m ball , TTX etc. The assumption is that it would then make table tennis wildly popular like pickleball or tennis. No it won’t Yes there is no denying the glory days of ha...

Some quick notes 1. Unless it is a no spin serve , every back spin or top spin serve should ideally have another component > heavy side spin , breaking either to the left or or right. This side pin component is usually one of the most neglected aspects at lower levels 2. In general , for a back spin...

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This applies to all pips players but more for away from the table choppers If yes , I do not completely blame you. I have no right to. Because I was brainwashed repeatedly by the ITTF & robotNazis again & again that I had no clue about the dark history of pips in ITTF until only a few years ...

A similar comparison test can also be performed for block defender ITTF slim pips ass wipe rubber Tibhar Dtec Grass against tons of both treated slim pips & non-treated actual long pips almost all of which are from Indonesia (& few from China). Personally I do not support treated pips becaus...

Before you delve into this test you need to understand why this test is essential for TOATLLY clueless choppers who support ITTF & do not understand ITTF corruption and robotNazi brainwashing To start, choppers need to get this in their heads first > There are no actual "long" pips in ...

Take a look at the threads below for details of this offer Click link > $ 5000 offer to choppers Click link > Offer extended to John Hilton and B.K. Arunkumar Click link > US Open 2026 Offer extended to Lalrin Puia BTW this offer is extended to all choppers rated over 2400 now or in the past playing...

Extending the $5000 offer to Lalrin Puia from Mizoram , India who is currently with ICC , Milpitas, CA Take a look at the threads below for details of this offer Click link > $ 5000 offer to choppers Click link > Offer extended to John Hilton and B.K. Arunkumar BTW this offer is extended to all chop...

Age has NOTHING whatsoever to do with what rubber type you should be using. Of course the robotNazis & coaches who engage in coaching malpractice wants to pip shame every newbie (especially children) into thinking that all new players must start in the sport only using (click link >) dumb racket...

From a personal standpoint , I don't give a hoot if robotNazis want to impart top spins of 18000 RPM (The estimated maximum top spin is around 9000 RPM if I am not mistaken. So 18000 is twice that). I am fully aware of the fact that table tennis is first & foremost a sport of spins. Spin and not...

Sohana wrote: ↑August 28th, 2026, 3:59 am Are these 2 guys still playing? SERIOUSLY

Yes both these guys are still active in tournaments recently.

If you want to understand what are slim pips & what are wide pips , read the webpage below

Click link > Truth about long pips

Click link> 18 rule and regulation changes by robotNazi controlled ITTF to oppress choppers and block defenders

If you want to understand what are slim pips & what are wide pips , read the webpage below

Truth about long pips

Thinking about moving to the divine side of table tennis ? RobotNazis have brainwashed AllSpins table tennis players who use (click link >) smart rackets (using pips anti rubbers on one side) into believing that something is seriously wrong with them if they use pips rubbers & call those who use...

I was not aware of the fact that these two players have been active

It seems B.K.Arunkumar is now listing his name as Arun B. Kumar

The $5000 offer is extended to these two players as well

See details at this topic below . Click on link below

$5000 offer to Gionnis, Ruwen , Linda etc

Take it from someone who was brainwashed by the ITTF and its coaches for the first 10 years of playing life in the prime of my youth. Stop wasting your time trying to play ITTF's version of top spin only Olympic table tennis using spinny inverted (click link >) dumb rackets There is 0% probability y...

Many years ago, there actually was a proposition to reduce the maximum sponge thickness to 1.7 mm This would have meant a maximum total rubber thickness to about 3.5 mm Of course it was soundly defeated I think The ITTF has always more important things to do Such as finding new ways to limit the cap...

on aturday , June 27, 2026 at 2:39 PM Korea's best Long Pips coach - Yoo Doo-Joon with one of his dozens of Yong-In TTC LP players. She just got one of those Nexy Korea custom fitted blades and slapped on one of those OX LP rubbers (Monkey OX) on the backhand side and is practicing a certain dynami...

I am looking to play only in USATT sanctioned tournaments. The concern here is that I am only willing to use rubbers that would at least partially provide me a level & fair playing field in the 40+ plastic ball only era What this means is that I wlll be using rubbers like Feint Long Classic whic...

for using Feint Long Classic or Juic Leggy Classic or Magic 77 or another pre approved rubber . But Feint Long Classic or Juic Leggy Classic has been de-approved by ITTF as of 1998 and Magic 77 is not ITTF approved Before asking these top choppers to break the rules, why don't you try to break the ...

OK However the referee has no authority to override the ITTF or USATT rules or regulations right? So it makes no sense that you ask for this LOL This is where you are TOTALLY mistaken Here is why USATT or other ITTF member associations (such as DTTB or TT Canada or TT England etc.) have no obligati...

What is the catch ? There is absolutely no catch. Easy $2000 for 10 minutes of work Why am I confidently offering it then ? Because I know it will never happen ITTF is so incredibly corrupt down to the smallest member association. They are all (secretly chopper & pip hating) robotNazis but who ...

i went thru entire list of US Open & US closed entries for 20r6 to see if I recognize any choppers other than Angela Guan or Derek & Pete May .
Can't find any. I may have missed one on two but offers still stand

$5000 for Angela Guan for using Feint Long Classic or Juic Leggy Classic or Magic 77 or another pre approved rubber at the US Open 2026. You must also use a (click link >) smart blade and also a blade at least 172 mm by 172 mm You do not have to win any matches . Just use them with full umpire appro...

for using Feint Long Classic or Juic Leggy Classic or Magic 77 or another pre approved rubber . But Feint Long Classic or Juic Leggy Classic has been de-approved by ITTF as of 1998 and Magic 77 is not ITTF approved Before asking these top choppers to break the rules, why don't you try to break the ...

You must also use a smart blade and also a blade at least 172 mm by 172 mm Why? A smart blade will have different layer compositions for backhand & forehand The forehand side should have an outer layer ALC (or similar) if the player loops on the forehand The outer layer on forehand side must be...

If you pass these changes , I will even give you redemption match & a chance to beat me & redeem yourself for the bad loss I gave you in by beating you in two straight games when you were on the USA team. I now have a bad back, bad knees & bad arm & 50% slower foot speed than I was ...

$5000 for the first chopper named above or any other top 100 ITTF ranked chopper for using Feint Long Classic or Juic Leggy Classic or Magic 77 or another pre approved rubber at the US Open 2026. You must also use a (click link >) smart blade and also a blade at least 172 mm by 172 mm You do not hav...

The first of the 227 member nations of the ITTF can get a $1000 donation to their association if they call for an EGM for the following. To repeal the 1998 Durban Aspect Ratio Reduction regulation passed by the ITTF council (different name then) It does not have to pass . Just have too submit it &am...

I am offering first 2 players $2000 each rated over 2200 at USA Nationals 2026 or US Open 2026 if you will use Feint Long Classic version or Juic Leggy Classic version or Magic 77 or a similar pre-approved rubbers for all your matches at the USA Nationals 2026. You must also use a (click link >) sma...

I know you do not need the money but this is for a good cause towards USATT I am offering you $2000 if you will use Feint Long Classic version or Juic Leggy Classic version or Magic 77 or a similar pre-approved rubbers for all your matches at the USA Nationals 2026. You must also use a (click link >...

All Virginia Sung needs to is to prove that she is not a Chopper Judas like Eberhard Scholer or Adham Sharara Heck I will donate $1000 to USATT if USATT will submit a proposal for ITFF AGM 2027 to just repeal the Durban 1998 Aspect Ratio Reduction chopper massacre regulation Or I will donate $2000 t...

Yeah I made a mistake too. The blade Hipnotic made for me is 172 mm in length, which is OK but I made a huge mistake in having the head width at 165 mm I do not know what I was thinking. (It was not Hipnotic's fault) I have no idea where & when & how this idiotic myth that the head length sh...

on Thursday , 04/23/2026 at 11:32pm I wanted to start a record of pips I have used on my BH as a reference for myself and others, to save time and money testing out these pips. I'm an offensive pips player so every description I have is going to be in reference to that style of play, mostly focusin...

Looks like JustGo made some more updates to USATT ratings presentation with some statistical analytics I am not particularly into that & I will explain in another post as to what really matters for most players & what should matter for USATT In this post I will just talk about past members. ...

This is one of the most neglected or misunderstood concepts

From a math geek's calculus viewpoint, velocity is differential of distance and acceleration is differential of velocity
I will give some simpler examples later unless others want to take a stab at it.

The increase in back spin "generation" (not just "reversal") and total "looper torture index" is much much higher when you take a 172 mm blade compared to a 165 mm blade. But most choppers even pro choppers (even the real GOAT of all of table tennis himself) are cluele...

James also the total blade including the rubbers matter Of course I have been saying this for years now This is the whole idea of a smart blade , is it not ? also the size of the blade mattes, isn't the same to play close to table than far from the table: Yes blade size matters. And yes away from t...

on ↑March 17th, 2026, 10:03 pm James also the total blade including the rubbers matter Of course I have been saying this for years now This is the whole idea of a smart blade , is it not ? on ↑March 17th, 2026, 10:03 pm also the size of the blade mattes, isn't the same to play close to table than f...

I will make a separate post for PH(penholders) In this post I will talk only about (SH) shakehand players Before getting into this , a brief explanation of what “spin contrast” really means “Spin contrast” defines the difference in spin capabilities of a smart racket A dumb racket with same rubber t...

on December 22, 2025 #11 I think You thought VERY wrong :D on December 22, 2025 #11 it usually helps to start with smooth rubber on both sides, No it does not. In my first 10 years in the sport , this is how I was brainwashed by the ITTF and itis coaches & the robotNazis who control the ITTF Fo...

That is true I used this rubber for about 7 years while looking for an actual long pips rubber even before 40 mm plastic ball arrived around 2014 I liked the long pips version of the 388 D1 but it was bad in that the pips would start to come apart after an hour I realized it was not made ny DHS but ...

Not only just the amount of back spin & spin reversal alone created by the non-ITTF actual long pips (with 1. higher pip length 2. higher aspect ratio 3. higher pip density) is much higher than ITTF slim pips , the (click link >) spin contrast of back spin against the top spin created by the spi...

About slim pips I also disagree, because are very good for classical defense far from the table but not the best choice to play close to the table. So are you saying that I was wasting my time (as a high level away from the table chopper who was competing between 1990 and 2000) battling the ITTF fo...

she plays close to the table defense so a smart blade (big blade) no make sense because a big blade is worse to play inside or close to the table style. Thanks for bringing up this issue because it needs clear clarification First all a blade does not have to be the biggest to be a smart blade as fo...

Lot of players told me that that a smart blade with wide pips with thick spong on primary side in TPG mode with spinny inverted on other side was way too heavy. especially for a penholder. So it prefers on your weight preference. Some prefer heavier blade and others prefer lighter blades. If you pre...

8 years ago I played at the New York International TT Club in Flushing a couple of times Item 4 at link below. Not sure if that place is still there https://pongplace.com/guides/table-tennis-clubs/nyc/#4-new-york-international-table-tennis-center One day I say a player walk by & looked quite fam...

For me it's the same to treat the LP that booster the inverted rubbers. This is how the robotNazi controlled ITTF cleverly brainwashes even experienced players like you. But don't feel bad because I was brainwashed 4 times in different ways by ITTF in my 50 years in the sport. Though I have noone t...

I have analyzed choppers / chop defenders going as far back as I can but there may be few before that but there is not enough information. The farthest back I can go was Dick Miles of USA from 40s to 60s (from the hardbat era) The I studied Zoltan Berczik of Hungary (I think 3 time European champion...

I have been using Mercury 2 for about 10 years now. That is the ONLY spinny inverted I have been using. Sure I have gotten one or two bad rotten Apples compared to 200 that I have bought for myself & my friends as gifts or at cost (it was like $2 before COVID) But otherwise , the only time I hav...

Explain to me 2 things. 1. Who made these 170 mm to 173 mm (click link >) smart blades for the above amateur or pro players ? 2. Let us assume they did indeed make these smart blades that were also 170 mm to 173 mm. How were they tested ? Please provide me in detail the test conditions , how many p...

Beyond our factory's machinery issues, I completely understand & respect & accept the fact that you are not interested due to to your provided valid reasons related to manufacturing & market conditions. I fully understand the chopper market is quite small No problem for me since I do no...

It is extremely important that non-ITTF long pips choppers charge a fee when they play against robotNazis who play in official ITTF (or affiliate such as USATT or DTTB or TTEngland etc) . This is because you as a non-ITTF long pips chopper are giving the robotNazis lot more back spin than they would...

Jul 24, 2023 #56 This is the same as the time when I posted, usatt 1500 trying to correct me on technical part of table tennis. well, James is like 1500 July 24, 2023 #58 what was his level 1500? 1200? Tony , You need to make up your mind First you overestimate me at 1500 Then you say I am 1200. Do...

At the amateur level ITTF's version of Olympic table tennis is just social table tennis using dumb blades & dumb rackets Most dumb racket players cannot loop even on the forehand (LOL) but they have this delusion that are two winged loopers like Fan Zhendong etc And clueless pips players like Ro...

I have a question. Most commercial rubbers are smaller than 170 mm, so what happens if a blade is made larger than 170 mm? Good question I have 3 blades at 173 mm. I have no problem finding Chinese slim pips or actual long pips OX rubbers Most Butterfly rubbers I believe are 175 mm I think there a ...

on August 18, 2025 #1 You will receive two rackets in total (sample + final version), and the full service including shipping costs is $250 USD. $250 for two blades is quite reasonable If I was still playing in tournaments, I definitely would have ordered a 173 mm smart blade but I hardly play much...

on August 18, 2025 #1 You will receive two rackets in total (sample + final version), and the full service including shipping costs is $250 USD. $250 for two blades is quite reasonable If I was still playing in tournaments, I definitely would have ordered a 173 mm smart blade but I hardly play much...

The racket size is not a major issue for us. However, creating a new size requires making a new mold, which takes additional production time. The 170 mm size you mentioned can indeed be produced. This is good to know I know changing mold size is a big problem for just making a custom blade for a fe...

I tried to re classify Asian (aka penhold) grip types hopefully to be a better tool for coaching on how to exploit the full potential of the penhold grip It will probably a little confusing at first but should be OK once you think thru it The racket types cPen- Chinese Penhold - Racket head shape is...

Do you know a long pips rubber non treated better than Magic 77 or Reach C8 to chop effectively? Magic 77 is the ONLY real long pips rubber I know of with best control for chopping & also has the best looper torture index compared to any useless social rubbers on the ITTF LARC such as Curl P1r ...

The problem with almost all choppers especially at the lower level, is that they do not understand how robotNazis control the ITTF Most of these clueless choppers / blockers believe that ITTF has not banned pips & anti ONLY because ITTF wants diversity LOL EXACTLY This is how I (click link>) wa...

Before I proceed let me make something clear. I am NOT blaming the (click link >) robotNazis who control the ITTF or its coaches. I have noone else but my own sheer stupidity to blame & I take full responsibility for this I take full responsibility for not thoroughly researching the issues invol...

Have you tried Reach C8? I did not try C8 because AR is too low for chopping. I tried C-801 but it was very hard to control & it was very weird. Yes the pip tops are rough for more (back)spin but if you are a chopper you want more control. I am not sure where lack of control comes from I could ...

on Sunday 25 May 2025, 19:04 D'tecs 0.5mm has better reversal and D'tecs 0.9mm lets you add some spin . AGAIN the question was about maximum spin (for a competitive player). Adding " some spin " using social ruber on ITTF LARC may be good for a social player on Sunday 25 May 2025, 19:04 D...

This whole thing makes no sense to me at all. All 4 rubber types are fully approved for use in Olympic table tennis. So if what you are saying is true , ITTF would have banned all rubbers other than spinny inverted (loop) rubber long ago. I think they allow all 4 types of rubber because ITTF is ama...

But what do you mean when you say top spin only and all spins ? Take a look at all the postings I made in this topic. Based on that , here is the difference. Olympic table tennis is top spin only table tennis because the primary focus is on Loop (top spin) style of play there is using smooth rubber...

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BTW when I was under first ITTF brainwashing and naive & impressionable (& clueless :D ) , I also switched to wide pips just because Stellan Bengtsson switched to wide pips on backhand (though he is not a chopper LOL) I even tried anti just because Jonyer switched to Anti. Again anti has alr...

But what do you mean when you say top spin only and all spins ? To understand this , you first need to understand some even more basic but grossly overlooked concepts Most racket sports are forehand dominant . Table tennis is a little more than others. (If you refuse acknowledge this and want to li...

on Tuesday September 16, 2025 at 11:48 AM #34 there are 10s of thousands that start at a young age with inverted on both sides, and most of them fail . Its only a few that makes it. Tony, I have to congratulate you on starting to come out of denial . This is a great start on your ITTF de-brainwashi...

Chopping with wide pips is mostly a gimmick & had been pushed by the ITTF because ITTF does not want more players using even slim flex pips let alone actual long flex pips. And manufacturers have exploited this by designing wide pips to behave like slim flex pips. But the fact is that the few pr...

Here are requirement for a somewhat fair & level playing field for (click link >) all spins diversity table tennis 1. Maximum allowed sponge thickness would be reduced to 1.8 mm (Total rubber thickness reduced to about 3.5 mm instead of ITTF's 4.05 mm) 2. No form of spein gluing or boosting is a...

The huge problem I have with the above tournament is this. You are just being exclusionary by not including legal spinny inverted rubbers. When I say keagl I mean rubbers that are not spein glued or boosted. A better tournament would be a create a tournamnet with a fair & level playing field for...

I also have seen few high level players use HPG with slim (flex) pips on backhand and chopping using the slim (flex) pips) . Did they cut out some of the pimples to allow for a deeper grip? With the shallow grip you're forced to use when playing with pimples on RPB, the racket angle only becomes co...

Definitely worse than shakehand with (click link >) wide or stiff pips on backhand Because you lose the biggest advantages if you can use HPG 1. Side spin hook loops using inverted from the RPB backhand. 2. Punch blocks using TPG wide (stiff) pips on forehand from the backhand side Liu Guoliang sort...

(sometimes JamesZ was seriously wrong in his articles) Yes I am like Rev. Larry Hodges. I NEVER make mistakes. I thought I once did but I was mistaken And the Golden Rule of Rev. Larry Hodges is NEVER EVER EVER apologize even if you make a mistake. Because it is a sign of weakness OK all joking asi...

Remember that as far as weakside pips (& back spin & versatility& overall effectiveness) goes chickens (short pips) can fly a little, doves (medium pips) can fly a little higher and bar-headed geese (social slim (flex) pips on (click link) ITTF LARC ) can fly much higher but Ruppell’s v...

Most of the "coaches" that PingPod employs are total jokes. Low level players with no coaching experience or professional experience, charging absurd prices for what they offer. Not all low level coaches have to the experience or level same as high level coaches. For beginners it is ok as...

Most of these wannabe choppers using wide (stiff) pips do not have the basic understanding of the operational mechanics of wide (stiff) pips as compared to ITTF LARC slim (flex) pips and non-ITTF actual long (flex) pips . Because they are cleverly brainwashed by the ITTF and its biased coaches to st...

Sebi , don't feel bad. I was clueless like you myself for almost my first 50 years in table tennis I was brainwashed by the ITTF and its coaches in four different ways. My last brainwashing lasted till last year. I was set in the right path by the German TTNews Discussion forum & a good table te...

(just look at Joo SaeHyuk 's game after changing the ball to a plastic one. There were almost no mistakes on chops with slim (flex) pimples from the opponents, but on his forehand chops, the opponents made mistakes very often) Interesting point. Though his forehand chop (with his lethal loops) is w...

But aren't ITTF LARC long pips close to 1.8 mm and ITTF LARC short pips close to 1.5 mm or less & so it is OK to call them long and short pips ? I have been asked this question a lot in person by people who object to my use of the words slim (flex) pips & wide (stiff) pips. Actually this is...

I admit I have been incredibly stupid myself for 48 years to fall a victim of ITTF brainwashing claiming that “long” pips exist table tennis after 1977. Though I do have an excuse for my first 10 years because I was even more clueless & believed that top spin only table tennis is the only way to...

That is an interesting question because IOC's ITTF has managed to sucessfully brainwash the pips players for than 50 years now. This is because everyone is trained to think that ITTF is an organization run by fairminded individuals with high ethics & truly care about diversity of playing styles...

on Thursday 22 May 2025, 03:55 Do you prefer chopping off the table with Anti or Long Pips more? Do they differ? Do you know of any pro chopper (& even semi pro chopper) who play away from the table that uses anti ? Granted , the original intended purpose of both anti and long pips (when they a...

An interesting fact is that the only country I know of , where there are no penalties for pips use are probably China &Indonesia And South Korea may be quite similar. North Korea of course is a strange & unique situation From what I heard , there a re lot os players there who even use actual...

The really sad part is when a pips players especially a chopper joins a club with such a name
How disgusting is that

A funny theory and nothing more. The club I mostly play in is called BAM-HIT("bam-bey"). By this logic, hitters with wide pips gather here, but this is not true I agree but only partially with what you are trying to say & you have somewhat of a valid point. I have also seen clubs that...

To summarize := 1. Using treated or cured ot solidified etc pips only excuses for robotNazis to justify their illegal cheating 2, Pips players (both at the table blockers and especially away from the table choppers) should work with manufacturers to have them provide you with non-treated actual long...

Don’t mistake me. I strongly support actual long pips that are not listed on ITTF LARC So why do I strongly oppose treated pips, cured pips, solidified pips or microwaved pips etc ? Actually it is more about the robotNazi crooks who cheat with illegal boosters & spein glues rather than the treat...

The initial deception & disruption with earlier anti & long pips was by no means intentional and an unfortunate by product. The 80s could be considered even peaceful & even the golden age of choppers . But what followed was a tit for tat battle about slim pips bewteen two German equipmen...

The original intended purpose of introduction of long pips & anti in early to mid 19770s was neither deception nor disruption. They were introduced primarily as a tool for choppers to provide :- 1. better control (in the case of anti) & 2. better control as well as more back spin (in the cas...

To start with, you will need smart blade and not a dumb blade used by (click link) robotNazis In this post I will talk only about shakehand players. In the next post in this thread I will talk about penhold & American grip players. Next, most young shakehand players should start with a spinny in...

You misunderstood me. I played with a racket with inverted rubber on one side and Yinhe Pluto on the other. Not with two wide pimples. When I wrote "MP/SP" I meant that Pluto is almost like typical wide pimples, only a bit bigger, and not medium pimples like Dr Neubauer KO I NEVER said yo...

UPDATE 2: Got used to Pluto and played today at my usual level of LP blocker (and all this time I trained only as an LP blocker, I did not have wide pimples) as an MP/SP hitter. Literally with the same score as usual I lost to those who I usually lost to as an LP blocker and also won those who I us...

Short pips are for people don't know how to make topspin Not exactly. Top pros using wide (stiff) pips on forehnd can loop better than most amateurs I have played against the very best of them in tournaments (all were penholders) It is not that they cannot loop but chose to stay with block smash pl...

Guys what about Mima Ito....? What about Mima ? Let us just assume to start with, that she has lived upto her potential with wide pips backhand (She has not but I will get to that in a minute) Even if Mima Ito is so good, what does that really prove for an average amateur player ............actuall...

I know antitop is the best weapon vs long pips but I think will be more complicated to adapt. How ? Isn't slim (flex) pips (incorrectly called long pips) harder to learn to use than anti ? Again I totally disagree that anti anti is the best weapon against long pips. I don't see how. The dynamic ran...

Long pips & anti arrived around early to mid-1970s. The original intended purpose of anti & long pips was NOT deception. It was to provide the choppers an ability to be able to handle the strong top spin loops using back spin of their own. But the (click link) robotNazis quickly figured out ...

For your backhand (100% absolute no)
For your forehand 5% yes

Click here to read why wide (stiff) pips (incorrectly known as short pips) is the absolute worst rubber for your backhand

A table tennis paddle sparked the rise of Björn Borg, who revolutionized tennis with topspin — only for that same topspin style to later reshape table tennis itself. A poetic loop of influence, where one sport quietly transformed another. True But as I pointed out earlier , it killed all the divers...

So lobbers & slicers are retrievers who are more defnsive as opposed to loobers & choppers who are more offensive in their play style You should never "throw the ball up there" to the opponents' side with no purpise. "Do something to the ball" with some purpose in mind O...

s. I took a ruler and measured the height and width of the pimples and saw that the height is 2 mm, and the width is 1.5 mm. That is quite interesting that you can accurately measure such a small dimension using just a ruler. I probably could measue the width using a micrometer but length (height) ...

But Reach C801 is still worse to chop. ' Mostly agree. Because it is much harder to control than Magic 77. But I also noticed that i I can land the return correctly , the spin reversal & generation is very high. Opponents were consistently putting the ball into the bottom of the net. But I agre...

I used both, for choppers as said better with friction, don't expect the same high reversal you can get with Reach C8 that for me is the best rubber for classic defense far from the table with OX 2.1 This is true . Yinhe Young (any version) would not come close to Reach C8 for chopping. But please ...

A slice is a shot where the ball is hit with a brushing motion, adding backspin, but usually with a more controlled, floating trajectory. It often stays low and is used for finesse or to change up rhythm. But it is not heavy back spin but you are rather just throwing up the ball up there but is a so...

Are long pimples on the sponge a good option for this? No. Not at all. (Unless you are a semi-pro or pro chopper) Only player who will benefit from sponge under the long pips (or ITTF slim (flex) pips) are semi-pro & pro level "away from the table" choppers. This is because the illega...

My post is about not people is creative in is life so not in TableTennis. Yes, all people can do all strokes but as humans that we are some are better than others. Yes, also training is the way for consistency. I think that if you master a greater number of strokes you will have more resources to w...

Borg was a true pioneer not just only with super top spins but along with the likes of Jimmy Connors, Frew McMillen, Chris Evert also ushered the era of two handed backhands. The inherent weakness of one handed backhands was exposed but table tennis still refuses to acknowledge as highlighted with i...

Well actually double - handed (pun intended) and that is an entirely different table tennis story It begins, like all great myths, with a gift — a talismanic tennis racket, won not on a tennis court, but in a table tennis tournament, clutched by a Swedish boy’s father and passed down like Excalibur...

@James Z, I looked for the Friendship 729 Yashofa blade without success, could you post a link to see the blade? This is an old blade. No longer in production. I may not be spelling the name of the blade correct . Let me check I may hav e this blade somewhere in my house in a box Here are the pictu...

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Diversity & creativity isn't accesible to everyone. Not sure what you mean. If you say not all people can play all strokes , that is not true. A player can still play a stroke say a chop or a lob with lower consistency compared to their strengths such as looping but they will have a very poor c...

@James Z, I looked for the Friendship 729 Yashofa blade without success, could you post a link to see the blade? This is an old blade. No longer in production. I may not be spelling the name of the blade correct . Let me check I may hav ethis blade somewhere in my house in a box Here are the pictur...

Click link below to view on Ali Express Stuor one side black carbon 7 ply blade It says OFF + . Size 160 mm x 152 mm . Maybe good for chop block backhand plus forehand hitters or power loopers Looks like it is available Flared fr shakehand aka Horizontal grip) as well c-Pen (aka vertical grip)

merlin el mago wrote: ↑April 28th, 2025, 11:11 pm @James Z, I looked for the Friendship 729 Yashofa blade without success, could you post a link to see the blade?

This is an old blade. No longer in production.
I may not be spelling the name of the blade correct . Let me check
I may hav ethis blade somewhere in my house in a box

All matter, if you have both you will be the world number one. I was clearlly differentiating reality vs delusion in terms of pros & amateurs. The reality is that the consistency level reaches a saturation point for almost all amateurs which is much lower thaan the pros for a given stroke such ...

You see this mistake by lots of coaches. For a young player who has the talent to become a professional in 5 to 10 years or less, focusing on improving on their consistency on a limited number strokes (mostly looping,, counter-driving, & blocking & mostly using spinny inverted rubbers) makes...

Is the Joola Chen Weixing defensive blade a smart blade ? No. It has 5 wood and 2 cloth layers and symmetric It is not a smart blade. I have tested it extensively during transition from 40- celluloid to 40+ plastic ball era It was borderline decent in the 40- celluloid era but became far less usefu...

Are you sure smart blades really helps a player's game that much ? Can players, especially amateur players even see any significant difference at all between the two sides ? If this is true wouldm't Butterfly , Stiga etc have made these blades long ago ? Good questions However there are few reasons...

Sanwei Two face Click to open Official webpage for the blade TOTALLY useless for combination style shakehand players because the head is too small But may work for shakehnad attack players who are forehand power loopers (or wide pips hitters) and soft loopers on backhand And useless for CPen penhol...

This is all the more true if you are away from the table chopper / modern defender since zero non-custom blades exist for this playing style in the 40+ plastic ball only era. The market is very small for such blades to invest R & D for these baldes, as ITTF has successfully extreminated all chop...

Click here to understand what smart blades are Here is an initial partial list of production blades I will expand & add a review later My suggestion for you would be to find a custome blade maker & design one for your exxact needs and specifications. If you are a pro player, you can relase ...

But it is important to keep in mind that no production blade, smart or dumb exist for away from the table choppers. This is becaus emost manufacturers call mid side blades ( around 166 mm or so in width & height) as oversizd blades. And this is a bold faced lie. For a chopper to remotely have a ...

So what are some examples of smart blades & dumb blades ? In general all Japanese blades (such as Butterfly , Nittaku, Juic etc. ) & Stiga blades are dumb blades This is because of the culturall bigotry against slim / long pips playing styles in Japan & any pips / anti styles in Sweden....

I have been using only bi-color balls now for an year just to test As a strictly exercise player who plays less & less , many opponents snicker when I want to use the this ball but they jus tolerate me because I do not play any matches (more like can’t) . But these are actually DHS 3 star balls ...

You read more about spins & side spins in table tennis at the website below

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Side spin is one of the 4 major types of spin in racket sports 1. Top spin (or over spin) > Ball spins towards the opponent as it travels towards him / her / them . The spin direction is the same as ball travel direction. Ball contact is made at a tangential angle sort of brushing the ball (The extr...

Thanks for the info, I really don't trust any Igor's post.... IgorPonger is sort of like the pricipal disinformation manager for ITTF. There are a few others in ITTF worship forums . Tony's Table Tennis comes to mind. I can understand a potentially illegal forum like TableTennisDaily protecting Igo...

So are you calling over probably 95% blades on the market as dumb ? This is true. Only because all these blades have been designed with some fundamentally flawed myths & assumptions 1. Human backhand = Human forehand 2. Top spin style of play is the only proper way to play TableTennis 3. You ca...

I have been proven wrong many times & no problem apologizing for my errors. That said, it seems there are serious myths in TableTennis and the worst one seems to be about spin reversal (& spin generation) Most of this comes from some players claiming that slim or long pips have the best reve...

In some ways there really is not a lot of difference between these two German equipment makers / dealers Scholer repeatedly raped the sport using his position on the ITTF equipment committee & with the help of Adham Sharara & the like likes of the cult leader Rev. Larry Hodges. All this is m...

[quote-joejoe] wrote on Monday April 14 , 2025 at 9:26 PM #1 in potentially illegal Table Tennis discussion forum called TableTennisDaily Hello all, I am looking to buy a long pips rubber for a project and it needs to be able to produce as much spin as possible. Ideally it would be something relativ...

on Friday 04 April 2025, 18:23 Close to the table OX, mid-far from the table with sponge. Close to the table, definitely frictionless type OX For away from the table clueless chopper (morons), it is a litlle more complex For player below about USATT rating of 1900 or so , OX is still the best but f...

You want to have an actual OX long pips such as Magic 77 (or at least ITTF social pips like Feint Long 2 or 3 or TSP P1 Curl or Victas P1 Curl etc) on your backhand with a frictionless type wide pips with spong on the forehand On the flip side you want to use the smart racket design below if you ar...

You want to have an actual OX long pips such as Magic 77 (or at least ITTF social pips like Feint Long 2 or 3 or TSP P1 Curl or Victas P1 Curl etc) on your backhand with a frictionless type wide pips with spong on the forehand On the flip side, if you are close to the table blocking style player , ...

This whole thread is a moot point. Because DiegoX continues to be in denial & just plain refuses to admit the fact that there are no actual "long" pips in ITTF's corrupt version of TableTennis, sadly known as Olympic TableTennis . Long pips were banned by ITTF in 1977 . The slim pips (...

Yes wide pips is the backhand rubber there is for any style of play while it is theoretically the best rubber in TableTennis for forehand (if you are talented enough to play at the table block and smash style) Wide pips (incorrectly called "out" rubber on ITTF LARC or incorrectly called &...

Yes wide pips is the backhand rubber there is for any style of play while it is theoretically the best rubber in TableTennis for forehand (if you are talented enough to play at the table block and smash style) Wide pips (incorrectly called "out" rubber on ITTF LARC or incorrectly called &q...

So what are the best currently available rubbers for away from the table choppers ? LOL Thre are no rubbers in the 40+ plastic ball ONLY era (after 2014) for away from the table choppers, Actually there were no rubbers for away from the table choppers even in the 40-celluloid ball era (2000 to 2014...

Feint Long Classic Version Juic Leggy Classic Version Are these long pips ? The sad answer is No. I was incredibly stupid to have believed for more than 45 years that long pips existed in TableTennis when started playing a lot. In all fairness to myself (retired former chopper) and the other choppe...

It would also be interesting to compare TAG with the American grip (aka Seemiller / Boggan grip) I may be wrong because I am a shakehander (who wishes I was born a HPG or American grip player) but I would tend to think the crossover point would be a touch less seamless for an American grip player co...

What about wide pips ? Can I just use wide pips instead of slim pips or anti or long pips > Wide pips is incorrectly called short pips or out on ITTF LARC because both wide & slim pips & medium pips or long pips are all pips "out" so it is confusing by design by ITTF , not me , Wi...

A block is a close to the table stroke right off the bounce or slightly afterwards. Racket movement is very minimal. In the context of anti vs long pips , quickest hand movements are possible if you have a lighter racket with OX pips. This i one of the advantages of real (or even fake long pips over...

I thought the 1998 change was called Aspect Ratio Reduction Regulatiom ? ! Yes it was. But the term "Aspect Ratio" was invented by the ITTF in 1873 to confuse the cluless ignorant chopper morons (sadly I admit this includes me) & successfully used in Durban in 1998 for anther 27 years...

Most of these rubbers also seem to be availanle in at lest four colors red , black, green and blue
Some may be available in pink & violet
Some were in yellow as well

I will see if I can order a bunch of these to test two items & few others & then post the results of test. There seems to be tons of suppliers for each of these real long pips. I have no idea which of these are good at overseas shipping or are not shady sites I am very surprised no one has t...

I have not tested these two rubbers but these two seem to have some potential based on their primary listed pips design parameters. Most others seem to be for blockers because the pip density seems to be low and or the pip tops are too frcitionless Click on link 1 > RAWARONTEXX Click on link 2 > RAW...

Thanks for this info. I used to be able to view items on Shopee but they no longer allow users in USA to even look at their site. Shopee wants you login using Google , Facebook etc but that does not seem to work because they eventually ask for aphone number & USa phone numbers do not work. This ...

Please read the following thread below first for background information Is this REAL long pips rubber Yinhe Young really ITTF approved This thread is limited to the ONLY untreated OX version of the Yinhe Young rubber This thread is limited to the ONLY the 2.5 mm length actual long pips OX version of...

This is a very helful video from an insightful pro

On the flip side, I also see many totally useless asymmetric blades that are way too small for away from the table defenders in the 40+ plastic ball ONLY era. There are a few asymmetric semi large (165 mm ) blades falsely advertised as oversized , that may be useful for at the table defenders . But ...

I cannot recommend any of these 3 blades .Here is why The two Offensive blades Maxi 2 & Maxi 3 are way too big for an attacking style play. The shape seems interesting similar to Cybershape but way too big The defensive blade is definitely useless thought the length is good . Because 1. The squa...

I'm waiting answer for the seller because first to buy I want to know if are frictionless or with friction. For the rubbers with 1.4 Aspect Ratio , they have both frictioned & frictionless versions. The verison with Aspect Ratio is not treated . So I assume it would less frictionless. I ordered...

This is a very interesting question. Because to start with, neither one is ITTF approved. Treated pips are not approved per Rula 2.4.7 (though not illegal under common law, like boosted rubbers are) Rubbers with Aspect Ratio more than 1.1 were banned as of 1999 & actual "long" pips whi...

The high aspect ratio version of Yinhe Young does not come in treated (solidified version). So you are comparing apples & oranges. The 2.1 mm length version of Yinhe Young has an Aspect Ratio of 2.1/ 1.5 = 1.4 It is very difficult for me to predict the behavior of treated version of this 2.1 ver...

Tristan, If you are looking for actual "long" pips try the following 2 items Magic 77 is currently the best back spin generation rubber for away fromn the table choppers. It could be better but it still is far superior to any ITTF slim pips like Feint Long 2 or 3. Magic 77 is also the best...

I admit I have been the biggest & most ignorant moron of all choppers Before blaming other choppers, I would be the first to shamefully admit > I had been the biggest & most ignorant quadruple moron of all of all the choppers by falling victim to brainwashing by the ITTF (& the robotNazi...

on Monday, January 20, 202511:47 AM #4 Lo siento Diego, estoy confundido por el título, no entendí bien la técnica de pips largos vs pips cortos. Eso es gracioso. Más aún porque las frases "pips cortos" versus "pips largos" son malas palabras. Haga clic aqui para leer la página ...

on Monday, January 20, 2025 #3 Why not to boost? Many of the modern defenders use their FH for attack and they rarely chop with FH. probably he is thinking about hobby players. pros, all use lp sponges, like JSK uses 1.7mm long pips if I recall. Pros can control the ball with fast sponges more atta...

So what is the truth about TSP R series versus Victas V series pips rubbers Which one is better You want the real and horrible truth ? They are both pure garbage in the 40+ plastic ball ONLY era. I will explain in deatil later but I have exaplined the whole sad history 100s of times in various TT f...

on Saturday 18 January 2025, 06:43 This evening I will be off to see how the Viscaria G09C and Dornenglanz continues to work for us and let you know if I have avoided the evil EJ for now (he can never truly be vanquished). Sorry to burst your bubble. There are no LONG pips in Olympic ( ITTF ) Table...

So what is the truth about TSP R series versus Victas V series pips rubbers Which one is better You want the real and horrible truth ? They are both pure garbage in the 40+ plastic ball ONLY era. I will explain in deatil later but I have exaplined the whole sad history 100s of times in various TT f...

Here is one appraoch Open ITTF LARC Select OUT & Long rubbers Select Chinese manufacturers See which medium pips are listed in either groups and are also Chinese Because many of these medium pips are listed in either category on the LARC See if you can buy a bunch of them for discounts with some...

The measurement of impact of any one pip design parameter is the least known in the case of pip alignment. Other pip design parameters may have lot more impart on overall behavior of the rubber These other pip length (or height), Aspect Ratio, pip density , pip flexibility (or stiffness) & its r...

The blade size marked as Large (168 mm length x 169 mm width) in just semi-large blade It definitely is not large These blades are suitable for at the table blocking type defenders only These DEFINTELY are not suitable for away from the table chopping defenders. It is a joke in the 40+ plastic ball ...

on Wednesday 02 February 2022, 06:03 However, at this stage in my career I'm coaching as much or more than competing, so when I am working with my students, I can slowly adapt to the new rubber, I do not train students playing long pips, I have a double inverted paddle for that. I hope you are not ...

Almost all TableTennis players are brainwashed incessantly by the robotNazis who control the ITTF into believing that anyone can be successful backhand loopers if you practice hard and or deelop the proper technique. Such thinking is not only am unrealistic fantasy but is downright delusional. The p...

Of late I have been hearing quite a bit about "slim (flex)" pips and "wide (stiff)" pips I have never heard of that This could be somewhat confusing to new players coming into TableTennis Stated simply , "slim (flex)" pips are the rubbers that are listed as "long&...

Additional information about pip parameters click on the following link

Pip design parameters and playing characteriics

Disrespectful No Call racket dumb? Anti was introduced in early 1970s . Long pips were introduced to the sport in mid 1970s Long pips were banned in 1977 , confirmed in 1983 and confirmed again in 1998 So ever since then (for about 50 years now) robotNazis have been name calling smart racket users ...

Take it from someone who was brainwashed by the corrupt ITTF over a 60 year period. First 10 years I was brainwashed as a player. Then the following 30 years I was brainwashed AGAIN as a coach & administrator. Yes the issues involved in this are quite complicated & I have some excuse for fal...

Most players simply have no clue as to how big a garbage symmetric blades are, expecially in the 40+ plastic ball only era Worse, supposedly the best manufactureres like Butterfly or Syiga seem to have a clue. Imagine making a symmetric blade for real long pips or ITTF skim pips.........OMG ......ho...

I am not a big fan of USATT outsourcing stuff like ratings to a third party like Simply Compete I have nothing agaisnt Simply Compete but when you add another layer , it causes more problems than it solves. Outsourcing may make more sense for larger or more complex projects but ratings ? Theer are a...

Attached are the results for 1985 Both Jiang JiLaiang & Chen Longcan were short pip traditional penhold hitters and they did not twiddle or play RPH Chen Xinhua was an away from the table chopper and not a close to the table blocker like Cai Zhenhua using anti But Chen Xinhua was using a two col...

China won the 1981 and the 1983 world teams easily. Sweden did not win. China won 5-0 in the final in Tokyo over Sweden. Attached is the results from web It shows China wom 5-1 and not 5-0 in 1983 China did beat Sweden 5-0 in 1985 not 1983 I could easily claim you are twisting the facts but I do no...

One could also argue that penhold or American grip players (twiddler & Eric) were bigger cheats than shakehand players like Cai Zhenhua because shkehand players have lesser control over what rubber they will use. How ? Because if a ball comes to the backhand side of a shakehander , they have no ...

China won the 1981 and the 1983 world teams easily. Sweden did not win. China won 5-0 in the final in Tokyo over Sweden. Attached is the results from web It shows China wom 5-1 and not 5-0 I could easily claim you are twisting the facts but I do not think you are an dit is just an honest mistake Ju...

First of all let me be very clear I have nothing against anti. But in 2024 even the frictionless antis are absolutely useless rubbers even for blockers even with all the deception it gives Of course antis (even the old grippy antis like the ones that twiddler used such as Butterfly Super anti or yas...

For argument's sake, Let us just assume that the color rule of 1983 was fully justified . Do you still think the other 11 changes since 1983 that fully or partially aimed at limiting the capabilities of choppers is fully justified ? Click on link above in blue to launch link to read about those 11 c...

It is also rather unfortunate that twiddler should come off as an "honorary looper" because when it comes to looping,
twiddler is as real as it gets.
Because according to Chester Barne's book, in his prime twiddler (& Hasegawa) had the fastedt loop in the world.

Twiddler may also find this fact interesting (I am sure he knows but I bring it up fo rbenefit of others) since he is propsoing inverted only events Sometime in the 90's when Sweden was on top , they actually proposed a rule chnage that mandated that both sides of the racket must be identical rubber...

See you later. I meant in no way to disrespect you by contesting your claims. You are an absolute legend in the sport both as a player & a coach And yes , as you said it was absolutely brilliant on your part after 1971 by quickly adopting to use anti and pioneering a whole new style that helped...

Twiddler (or Eric) raraely ever lost to choppers in their prime. But I am not at all syaing that they won ONLY because of their anti. They won because of their offensive & overall skills & not just because of their anti. But fact remains that most loopers consider choppers to be a huge nuisa...

See you later. That is perfectly oK But it seems odd that you have jumped all over on mistake I made but seems to have conveniently ignored all my other questions. Table tennis ia one of the most complicated individual sport with or without long pips or with or without anti. If you believe turning ...

China won the 1981 and the 1983 world teams easily. Sweden did not win. China won 5-0 in the final in Tokyo over Sweden. You are absolurely correct. I made am error in referring to Sweden's 1973 win as 1983 win. It was a malor brain fart on my part. BUt you are welcome to fact check any other state...

I used the same rubber on both sides of my paddle for a couple of years and then in 1971 an anti sponge was used by a French player at the worlds in Nagoya. Since I only used one side of the paddle I tried the anti on the other. It helped me to return serves. My style was innovative and no one had ...

I was able to VPN from Singapore & view limited information including some pips But it forces me to login , which does not work I was able to take a look at the Dragons Tail rubber Click this link after switching VPN ro Singapore This rubber can be aligned vertically or horizontally (it has log...

Years ago asked Iskandar by P. M. at the fòrum to buy for me long pips and he agree but weeks first and month passed and never send me nothing, always excuses to no send the pips.... I asked Iskandar the same thing to too. I even offered to sne money before hand Iskandar as usual accused me of bein...

on Monday May 15, 2023 #1 Does it really matter what blade/rubbers to use? Is there a proper combo? [/color] Yes, very much so For better or worse, TableTennis is the most equipment sensitive sport there is. I was brainwashed twice by the iTTF & its coaches & various ITTF worship forums lik...

BRS, my friend, you may have bigger problems. I think your wide pips with sponge on your backhand may be your weight problem Wide pips is theoretically the best forehand rubber but it is also the worst rubber for backhand Visit this link to read why Don't be a Honorary Looper Do the right thing and ...

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on Friday 11/03/2024 at 8:05am I need great cushioning for play on bare concrete floor. I am not sure if cushioning is a big problem in any shoe Because you can buy cushion inserts separately. When I userd to play, I always looked for the ligthest possible shoe . I actually weighed them. I used to ...

My research process was find out what were recommended to beginner+. LOL This is how ITTF's brainwashing starts on innocent clueless victims As a person brainwashed by ITTF twice (first as a ayer for about 10 years & nxt 30+ years as a coach & administrator) Isn't double inverted standard? ...

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