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... ago I also believed that everyone should start in tabletennis with a dumb racket But the Indian girls & women set me straight. You may also want to read a topic ...

... tennis is spin & this is what distinguishes table tennis from other racket sport. Yes spin is critical in other racket sports as well but not ... (click link >) smart rackets like table tennis does , instead of using dumb rackets I will provide smart racket details for tennis & pickleball ...

OTSOTT (Olympic Top Spin Only Table Tennis) players use dumb rackets (dumb blade also with same rubber, spinny inverted rubbers both side of the racket) ASDTT ...

I am actually confused about various playing domains such as Olympic Table Tennis & All Spins Table Tennis
I am also not sure for my playing style and what type racket to use.
Because I also see two racket types dumb rackets and smart rackets
Can you recommend one for my play style

... era for choppers. To perform the comparison test you need two identical rackets except that the pips rubbers will be different That is both rubbers ... mm width and length) custom smart blade & not a tiny mass produced dumb blade for both rackets. Now you want to test these two rackets against ...

... that all new players must start in the sport only using (click link >) dumb rackets and should not use smart rackets. The unofficial mission statement of IOC & ITTF ...

... brainwashed AllSpins table tennis players who use (click link >) smart rackets (using pips anti rubbers on one side) into believing that something ... side" of tabletennis not the "dark side" . Those who use dumb rackets (with spinny inverted both sides of a dumb blade) are on the ...

... the same logic , a HAG (Hybrid Asian Grip aka penhold) smart racket would be 7 dimensional This was used by Liu Guoliang I would let someone ... you can do about it. Nevertheless , a smart racket is superior to a dumb racket for 90% of players regardless of grip used

If you still keep insisting on using a (click link >) dumb racket , keep the following facts in mind When you use a smart racket with different rubber types ...

Relentless never ending barrage of brainwashing
It is all around you.
Incessant chants of the dumb racket being the ONLY "NORMAL" racket in table tennis

... top spin only Olympic table tennis using spinny inverted (click link >) dumb rackets There is 0% probability you will fail Don't be stupid like I was Stop living in a psychotic ...

... : Failed attempt by Swedish Association to limit Table Tennis to ONLY dumb rackets banning all smart rackets that would have mandated that both sides of a racket must ...

Even bigger mistake that a one sided grip player can make is using a dumb racket Usually most of these players use double spinny inverted rubber both side but never use ...

... anyone can play backhand equal to their forehand in terms of power, consistency etc which is pure nonsense So if effect 90% players end up using dumb rackets though they have no clue exactly why

I would tend to think this applies to any one side grip player with Asian or American (aks Seemiller) grip
This would apply to any penholder including cPen who plays TPH (Traditional Penhold) style and does not use the backside of the racket at all

... players refusing to understand or accept proper definitions abnormal racket users vs normal racket users Let me clarify this yet again An abnormal racket user or player is someone who uses a dumb racket and plays in the ITTF's TSO OTT ( Top Spin ONLY Olympic Table Tennis ...

... so powerful all over the world brainwashing the clueless newbies that a dumb racket is the ONE & ONLY path to salvation According to robotNazi docctrne. there one but ...

... etc or in the context of a smart phone etc. It strictly refers to the functionality orientation being different on the two sides of a blade or racket Such as one side being designed for looping and other side designed for chopping etc

... you are most likely to fail. So you need to start playing using a smart racket (spinverted rubber one side & OX long pips on the other side) ... you test your skills for the all spins playing style. Not start with a dumb racket with spinverted rubber both sides You need to explore the entire ...

... in mind that just twiddling is not enough If you are using the wrong racket , then twiddling is less effective Take for example Manika Batra. ... from forehand used on backhand But the problem is that Viscaria is a dumb blade & useless for her slim pips on her backhand Manika is optimizing ...

... being a chopper. You need to look at the overall functional value of a racket and not just how it behaves against just one type of incoming ball ... then long pips. If you seriously think just a double spinny inverted dumb racket is good enough for any player pro or amateur then there absolutely ...

... Bigger problem is that this confuses new players. They all get brainwashed by the robotNazi controlled ITTF and its coaches that they can use any racket and rubbers and be equally successful. It would make sense if the probability of success is even 51% but the probability of success is only like ...

... best rubber for defending as well. Claiming that you can defend using a dumb racket with either spinny inverted only or wide pips only both sides is just almost (not completely) ...

... fun. But if you are talking from the competitive standpoint , a smart racket is far superior to a dumb racket PERIOD.' If you claim that anyone can with any rubber equally well, then there ...

... player >they can beat you using a clipboard or a frozen fish for a racket. It all about only technique & training. It does not matter what ... pips, anti, etc. What matters is the skills!!! Yesterday at club a dumb mate told me that I win due to using long pips as bakchand, my answer ...

Look at a professional table tennis player >they can beat you using a clipboard or a frozen fish for a racket. Fish lob , you are correct in exposing above nonsense When comparing two players with very different playing styles and or rubbers and blades , you need to compare ...

... player >they can beat you using a clipboard or a frozen fish for a racket. It all about only technique & training. It does not matter what ... than 67% (two thirds) believe that everyone should use same identical dumb rackets In most elections in any civilized nation you only need 51% ...

... forehand) and can be equally successful. Look at a professional table tennis player >they can beat you using a clipboard or a frozen fish for a racket. It all about only technique & training. It does not matter what rubber blade or rubber or style you choose. It takes us back to the argument ...

... And OX slim pips were not as popular in the early days and so chopper rackets were also was designed smaller though slightly larger But now after ... Akula should be using slightly larger smart rackets and not the useless dumb racket like Butterfly Viscaria (Yes Butterfly Viscaria is probably the ...

... off load all his pips rubbers & looks like he has regressed to a dumb racket What happened piligrim ? Has the (click link >) robotNazis brainwashing brigade gotten ...

... And OX slim pips were not as popular in the early days and so chopper rackets were also was designed smaller though slightly larger But now after ... Akula should be using slightly larger smart rackets and not the useless dumb racket like Butterfly Viscaria (Yes Butterfly Viscaria is probably the ...

... “Spin contrast” defines the difference in spin capabilities of a smart racket A dumb racket with same rubber type (usually spinny inverted but applies to any rubber types) ...

... to All Spins Diversity Table Tennis & the smart blades and smart rackets , I still used to think like you. That all newbies especially children should start with dumbest of dumb rackets made with dumb blades. The Indian girls & women set me straight ...

... is a different issue. I could never understand why she is using a dumb blade from Butterfly . Viscaria is not a bad blade but only for dumb racket user who use spinny inverted both side. It is not meant for players like Manika Regardless ...

Well i guess it is not critical It is not critical if you are a dumb racket player, especially using spinny smooth rubber both sides. But if you are a smart racket ...

... robotNazis controlled ITTF's top spin only Olympic table tennis using dumb rackets ( all rackets you have are probably dumb rackets) or if you want to play non-ITTF all ...

... thanks. (click link >) robotNazis would tell you that you should use a dumb racket with inverted rubbers on both sides :D :cry: :evil:

It is also important that you use a smart blade to design your smart racket.
You can still use a dumb blade to design a smart racket but for best performance in the all spins table tennis domain , you are still better off using a (click link >) smart blade as well

... powerful backhand loopers & therifore can use double inverted dumb rackets Because the human backhand is weaker for about 85% of humans in any racket sport. But ...

... a hinoki carbon blade. Bulldog Xiom Hayabusa HX Pro is a (click link >) dumb blade Dumb blades are designed for players living in the two winged looping fantasyland They are not suitable for (click link >) smart racket designs , since you said you are using slim pips (i.k.a. long pips ...

... etc to play a two winged looping playing style using homogenous dumb rackets. The (click link >) robotNazis ITTF considers diversity tabletennis is a nuisance and ...

... is a word used in ITTF worship forums by (click link >) dumb racket users playing (click link >) Top spin ONLY Olympic version fake table tennis to describe ...

... : Failed attempt by Swedish Association to limit Table Tennis to ONLY dumb rackets banning all smart rackets that would have mandated that both sides of a racket must ...

For dumb racket players , I don't think it matters much because both sides of the blade are same type rubber
That is the very definition of a dumb racket itself , is it it not ?

I wondered how these parameters factor into your racket design.
I am interested in hearing your own personal experiences

... version of Olympic table tennis is just social table tennis using dumb blades & dumb rackets Most dumb racket players cannot loop even on the forehand (LOL) but they have this ...

on August 18, 2025 #1 You will receive two rackets in total (sample + final version), and the full service including shipping ... 2) , let alone a zone 3 or Zone 4 chopper , it MUST be a smart blade not a dumb blade. My design would be 6 layer blade with an outer layer composite but on ...

on August 18, 2025 #1 You will receive two rackets in total (sample + final version), and the full service including shipping ... 2) , let alone a zone 3 or Zone 4 chopper , it MUST be a smart blade not a dumb blade. My design would be 6 layer blade with an outer layer composite but on ...

The racket size is not a major issue for us. However, creating a new size requires making a new ... head size especially with the 40+ plastic ball. Also I absolutely hate (click link >) dumb blades . I explain below Of course, considering Joo Sae Hyuk’s aggressive playing style, ...

... only as with ITTF's version of top spin only table tennis , order a racket made with a (click link >) dumb blades If you want to enjoy all spins diversity version of table tennis , order a racket ...

No defender, whether chop or block should ever use dumb blade unless they attack a lot more using the defensive side. For block type players slightly smaller blades are fine but for chop defenders anything less than a head size of 170 mm by 170 mm ...

... not meet above 2 conditions is maximally the best even for a pro modern chopper Even for a classic defender who may use an all wood (click link >) dumb blades , the blade head has to be at least 170 mm by 170 mm

... to couple of clubs. Everyone keeps telling me I should start with a dumb racket with spinny inverted rubber both sides & learn proper technique first before moving ...

... to couple of clubs. Everyone keeps telling me I should start with a dumb racket with spinny inverted rubber both sides & learn proper technique first before moving ...

... to support a corrupt ITTF , it is perfectly ok to buy a (click link >) dumb racket sold in stores like Walmart , Target or sporting goods stores like Disck's , Scheels, ...

... a little confusing at first but should be OK once you think thru it The racket types cPen- Chinese Penhold - Racket head shape is usually oval. The ... Asian Grip – No twiddling. Only one side of the racket is used. Dumb racket with same rubber used for forehand & backhand. No rubber ...

... Basically, if you are noob, begginer, advanced or never even grabbed a racket, don't worry, you don't need to use your brain cells anymore thinking ... your crazy postings in TTDaily ? You keep recommending (click link >) dumb rackets with (click link >) dumb blades to beginners ? SERIOUSLY ?

... they qualify as two wing loopers , simply by using a spinny inverted dumb racket. Simply using a spinny inverted dumb racket and just pushing and blocking does not qualify ...

... was the ONLY NORMAL way to play table tennis using (click link >) dumb rackets . I was constantly brainwashed that I should not be using (click link >) smart rackets ...

... : Failed attempt by Swedish Association to limit Table Tennis to ONLY dumb rackets banning all smart rackets that would have mandated that both sides of a racket must ...

... spin Olympic table tennis is played mostly using illegal (click link >) dumb rackets made using (click link >) dumb blades But to play all spin table tennis you need a ...

... little to zero spin when i play, Im looking to upgrade to a non Premade racket with good rubbers and wood, whats the best i could get if im a beginner ... spin ONLY Olympic table tennis promoted by ITTF using (click link >) dumb rackets assemled using (click link >) dumb blades Most of Asia (except ...

... just the natural human condition of biomechanics of the backhand in all racket sports. Forehand is the dominant stronger side and backhand is the ... mistake I made. Dump top spin only table tennis using (click link >) dumb rackets & start enjoying all spins table tennis using (click link ...

... grip playing styles) . Because one sided grip players can use smart rackets better using two different rubber type and use any rubber any time ... brainwash newbies into believing that top spin table tennis (using dumb rackets and dumb blades) is the ONLY & NORMAL way to play table ...

... Butterfly) Side 2 : Anti-Power (medium, Yasaka) LOL it is almost like a dumb racket with almost same rubber both sides If Tenergy 64 is not spein glued or boosted it is ...

... carbon version of cybershape. Thanks. You do not want a (click link) dumb blade if you will be using a (click link) smart racket . You want to use a (click link) smart blade Also check out this link about (click link) ...

... techniques to play top spin only table tennis like you are doing using dumb rackets and not learn the techniques to play all spins table tennis usings smart rackets ? ...

... So based on that I would expect a coach to pat great attention to the racket design of a player during various stages of development. I know right away if coach is biased and not suitable if they routinely choose a dumb inverted racket to beginners especially children, older adults or para ...

... rubbers on forehand and backhand. This is true even if she still uses a dumb racket with same type rubber both sides Even if she uses same rubber in matches. Noone is going ...

... pretty young woman from Turkey Victas website above says she uses the dumbest racket (identical rubber both sides here also on a dumb blade) This is against human bio mechanics ...

Using dumb rackets is definitely abnormal in real table tennis but is more of an expected or demanded behavior is ITTF's version of top spin only OLympic table tennis. Racket sports in general are forehand dominant due to biomechanics of human body Tabletennis even ...

To start with, you will need smart blade and not a dumb blade used by (click link) robotNazis In this post I will talk only about shakehand players. In the next post in this thread I will talk about penhold & American grip players. Next, most ...

... Or maybe I should play just like Zhou Xintong? If you used and MP / SP rackets I do not think it is very useful. I think it is almost aa bad as a dumb racket with minimum spin contrast. An OX Long pips like C801 or an almost fictionless ...

... flat hits, you do not need any spin in table tennis or in any other racket sport Most of us cannot and that is why we need spin in racket sport ... anti both sides but thats is because he was good with that choice of dumb racket ( a dumb racket has same rubber type both sides but in almost ...

... and 100s of posts (if not in the 1000s) by newbies on how to choose a racket design. Interestingly all these posts will start with the assumption that all newbies should start in the sport using a (click link) dumb racket .

... on more suitable rubbers for his style of play. HAve you tried to help him him by explaining this to him & why he needs to switch to a smart racket ? Remember, a greater success in sport is creating (coaching) a player to a better success than yourself

... players, it really does not matter much as to what you use for your racket or blade or rubber etc But for competitive players ONLY , who play ... rubber on his backhand . What this means is that (click on link) dumb rackets are definitely not suitable for older players or para players. ...

The concept of a dumb racket is difficult to comprehend even for coaches because they have been brainwashed so long by the ITTF that dumbrackets are "normal" rackets in TableTennis.
So it would be an even harder concept for a new player to grasp

... , the time to rehabilitate yourselves is NOW. Stop using super dumb rackets , dumb rackets and semi-dumb rackets. You want to use smart rackets that ITTF is terrified ...

Olympic TableTennis is also known by the names Top Spin Only TableTennis or Dumb Racket TableTennis

Real TableTennis is also known by the names Diversity TableTennis or All Spins TableTennis or Smart Racket TableTennis

Looks like they only make (Click blue links) dumb blades and dumb rackets

Most Euro manufacturers (except Stiga) have at least one or two smart blades

... on both sides of the blade are almost completely useless for smart racket users. Theerfore it definitely would make sense to call symmetric blades as dumb blades & asymmetric blades as smart blades , most especially in the 40+ plastic ...

... (or else) and fear of social rejection by robotNazis if you use a smart racket instead of a dumb racket or at least a semi-dumb racket such as with only wide pips or anti on oe side (as ...

... 02/17/2025 at 2:07 AM Yinhe 05b with Venus rubber on both sides. A racket with identical rubber on both sides (Also know as Sweden 95 special) of a racket is called a Super Dumb racket Click here to read why Unless you are a young person taking formal training ...

... backhand) would be OX long pips (actual long pips bit ITTF social slim pips) And this would be also an asymmetric blade Why ? Because such a racket design provide the player with maximum possible (click link >>) spin contrast (maximum top spin & maximum back spin) Exceptions are most ...

... backhand) would be OX long pips (actual long pips NOT ITTF social slim pips) And the blade used would be a smart blade Why ? Because such a racket design provide the player with maximum possible (click link >) spin contrast (maximum top spin & maximum back spin) on the spin continuum ...

A dumb racket would have the same type rubber & identical brand and thickness both sides. The dumbest of dumb rackets ...

Freddie wrote: ↑March 17th, 2025, 11:33 pm Even if this is disrespectful, players, especially robotNazis should learn to accept it & get used to it going forward

Payback is always a biatch isn't it ?

... ? Not exactly. The classification is Based strictly on functionality & mostly applies only to amateur players. Please visit the topic Dumb and Smart rackets and coaching malpractice to fully understand this. Even if this is disrespectful, players, especially robotNazis should learn ...

Is it not kind of disrespectful ?

... strange story. While Indian women & girls have pioneered the smart racket revolution worldwide, Indian men seem to be still under the sp ell of ITYF brainwashing to use dumb rackets . Japan is strange case, While lot of the players may not really be robotNazis ...

... This may be partially true for some pros but for amateurs this is a dumb arugument. Because an amateur should be using an OX rubber on backhand(or ... rubber can keep the blade light enough. You should take a look at the racket of arguably the greatest woman player in history Angelica Rozeanu ...

... first brainwashed by the ITTF & robotNazis into believing that a dumb racket is the normal racket & something is wrong with you if you use a smart racket as ...

... Thanks for admitting you don't think LOL So you are recommending a dumb racket to a 60+ year old player who is returning after a 40 year lat off ? REALLY ? on Monday ...

Because the ITTF coaches have been brainwashed to think that only dumb racket users are "normal" players &top spin is the ONLY way to play TableTennis. ...

... Bbecause I suspect that you are then starting your stidents also using dumb rackets That would be a huge mistake & coaching malpractice I was also brainwashed by the ...

... The sooner you coe oit of denial and stop using a double inverted dumb racket and start using a smart racket to match your backhand playing style (whether blocking ...

Disrespectful No Call racket dumb? Anti was introduced in early 1970s . Long pips were introduced to the sport in mid 1970s Long pips were ...

Disrespectful No Call racket dumb?

Easy to remember Dumb Racket = Can produce strong forehand top Spin but weak backhand top spin at best for even maybe 50% pros & ...

It makes me want to puke wheneber somone refers to a dumb racket user as a "normal" player or a "regular" player but when robotNazis act like they are entitled to ridicule smart racket users as junk rubber players

I was reading with interest the topic below Dumb Rackets, Smart racckets and coaching malpractice I would like to add add some sub classificationss A dumber racket woull be a racket using a symmetric blade with different rubbers of same type such as ...

... as a new player for 10 years . Everyone kept telling me that using a dumb racket is the only proper way to play TableTennis & smart rackets are for unathletic losers. ...

... wrong because there is no such thing as playing a defensive game with a dumb racket A dumb racket (as applied to amateur levels only not pro level) is a racket with same ...

... that the backhand is the weaker side for most human being in all racket sports. In table tennis the probability of a human having a loop & ... for children, should they not be starting using smart rackets & not dumb rackets , as most Indian children (& more & more Taiwanese children ...

... few players in no wheelchair classifications that may be able to use dumb rackets . But dumb rackets make no sense at all for wheelchair players, I am not saying this ...

... based on human physiology, all children should start with a smart racket not a dumb racket . They can always switch to a dumb racket after age 15 if they demonstate exceptional ...

... between forehand & backhand from huma physiology perspective in racket sport, 2. significance of faster brain development being one of the ... table tennis 3. ITTF brianwashing of coaches & players by promoting dumb rackets 4. Third ball & fifth ball problems associated with dumb ...

... to incessant brainwashing by the robotNazis into believing that a dumb racket is THE nornal racket. As you yoursekf admitted here , you call it a regular blade. It ...

... brainwashing by the ITTF based on the false European two winged looping dumb racket lawn tennis model And I referring to beginners who have played perhaps 1-3 years, in ...

... is considered the best sport for brain development of children 2. Dumb rackets however are probably the worst for childred as involves least thinking for brain simulation ...

... for children You have been brainwashed by the ITTF into believing that dumb rackets are the right rackets for children. Read the webpage above to deprogram yourself Also ...

... years, to belieev that all players especially new players , should use dumb rackets. Second time for nearly 25 years as a coach into believing that all children & ...

... clearly not only wrong but even a fraud. This model is now known as the Dumb Racket model in TableTennis Anyway without going into details of rationale or politics as to ...

AllenCorn needs to understand the most important concepts
of Spin Contrast & Spin Continuum

That would explain why he should not be using a dumb racket

Click here to read more detail on this

... biggest problem is not his rubber thickness but it is using the wrong racket. Your huge problem is your using a dumb racket Click highlighted link in blue above to understand what smart rackets & dumb ...

... the ITTF. The brainwashing is incessant, calling double inverted dumb racket users as "normal" players, as if smart racket users are not "normal". ...

BTW , it is worth clarifying that the phrase "dumb rackets" is not limited to a racket with smooth spinny rubber both sides only. If a racket has ...

... he was giving you serves of the same quality when you were using each racket. But one thing we can say is, if with one racket the ball was going ... to the formal sport of competitive table tennis should not be using dumb rackets Click here for more information about Dumb vs Smart rackets ...

... rubber for your backhand. Sorry to say this to you but you are using a dumb racket Click here for a detailed explanation as to what a dumb racket is The main problem is ...

... japanese or chinese rubbers My play and style video Thanks Using a dumb racket , especially short pips both sides is a very bad idea. Consider using medium pips (so ...

... a stronger backhand but this is very rare. You should stop pushing this dumb racket agenda that ITTF had been doing for more than 30 years now. Stop it please

... $2000 to USATT if I am allowed to use high spin pips on a one color racket , as defined in above 3 parameters I will donate $2000 more is Virginia ... play. Haven’t you oppressed me enough for 25 years ? The demise of the dumb racket era is fast approaching anyway (if you have been following the ...

The biggest problem with most dumb racket users is coming out of denial. Because they have been brainwashed so long and so hard by the robotNazis ...

I believe current credit cards carry both the magnetic strip and the chip if I am not mistaken. Sometimes the contactless method does not work but the card will still work if swiped or inserted Not sure after 2024 because I heard at least MasterCard is going to start phasing out magnetic strips and ...

Be careful if you hold your racket near & dear to your heart.
It might blow your pacemake

Lexie J wrote: ↑May 25th, 2024, 1:43 am Why not just carry your credit cards in an RFID blocking wallet ?

Are you sure these wallets block static magnet fields from magnets ?
RF in RFID is RF(Radio Frequency) meaning it is an electromagentic wave & not a static magnetic field

Why not just carry your credit cards in an RFID blocking wallet ?

Older credit cards with a black magmetic strip on the back may be damaged by a static magnet on your CWT racket because you are exposing the credit card for hours and ossibly days to a steady magnetic field. But it may take weeks or months before your credit card may be damaged. ...

Why would you carry them together ?
They are both expensive items ?
If your bag gets lost or stolen, you lose both items

... all. :) Ha Ha kindof99 , you are so funny. Are you trying to combine a dumb racket with a smart phone , hoping it will make your dumb racket any less dumber ? ( Of course ...

... it here and ideally would be from one of the retailers that glue the racket for you! Oh and I have shakehand grip. THanks! Most of the answers ... in TTD assume that all new players must start in the sport with dumb rackets . This is very bad advice because this is how most players & ...

A dumb racket is any racket that has the same type rubber on both sides of the racket.
This defintion applies mostly to amateur players
A dumb racket with smooth spinny rubber is an especially dumb racket in TableTennis & is the worst choice for children starting in the sport

Another reason why the dumb racket is promoted in the sport are the manufacturers.

Inverted rubbers cost a bit more compared to pips & anti.
Also inverted rubbers need to be replaced quite often.
Pips / anti rubbers need almost no replacement at amateur levels.

I don*t blame you for getting angry. Your post will make dumb racket users so mad but they should understand because they have abused the smart racket users ...

One can understand ITTF's behavior even after 20 or even 30 years of introduction of smart rackets but the abuse of smart racket users has gone on long enough & this must stop now. In this context the Indian girls led by Indian women are pioneering a revolution in the sport.

There is lot lots of discussion in German forums on this as well, Click on link below

India floods youth tournaments with smart racket players

I thought the dumb racket users consider themselves to be the superior athletes simply by their choosing dumb rackets ?

... easy names to remember going forward for realistic & fraudulent racket designs for TableTennis. This is essential for defining Coaching Malpractice ... as the best for the beginners, especially children coming to the sport. Dumb rackets :- This definition generally applies mostly to rackets ...

... : Failed attempt by Swedish Association to limit Table Tennis to ONLY dumb rackets banning all smart rackets that would have mandated that both sides of a racket must ...

... (if not the MOST cmplex) there is. This is due to the extremely complex rackets used in the sport and given that this is one of the fastest racket ... as the best for the beginners, especially children coming to the sport. Dumb rackets :- Generally applies mostly to rackets used by amateur , especially ...

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