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Andreas Levenko - a drama queen ? Did the umpire fail by not red carding him ?
Posted: August 14th, 2025, 11:10 am
by Spin City
What do you think ?
Re: Andreas Levenko - a drama queen ? Did the umpire fail by not red carding him ?
Posted: August 15th, 2025, 1:27 am
by Spin Diva
Andreas was way over the top during the match during the match & especially after after the match.
I have seen many instances of robotNazis harassing & bullying a pips player AFTER the match (almost always after losing) .
And I have seen this person a well as on videos
The question becomes as to how you red card a player who has already lost .
In most cases if they lost the singles they could be playing at least doubles or mixed doubles.
If that is the case, they should be banned from those events and of course no refund of entry fee etc.
Re: Andreas Levenko - a drama queen ? Did the umpire fail by not red carding him ?
Posted: August 15th, 2025, 1:38 am
by Blanche2
If that is the case, they should be banned from those events and of course no refund of entry fee etc.
But additionally there should be more serious consequences .
They probbaly should be baneed for 6 months for first instance and also pay a small fine
Second violation > 2 or 3 year suspension amnd more fines to the player as well as the club or national association etc that sent him
Of course third violation results in a permanent lifetime ban
Re: Andreas Levenko - a drama queen ? Did the umpire fail by not red carding him ?
Posted: August 15th, 2025, 2:45 am
by Lobeater
Did Andreas take drama lessons from fellow Austrian Chen Weixing
Re: Andreas Levenko - a drama queen ? Did the umpire fail by not red carding him ?
Posted: August 15th, 2025, 1:17 pm
by Alima
I was checking all other ITTF worship forums about this match.
I found it quite interesting that evry one is talking racket control for pips rubbers.
There was not a single mention about testing for boosters & spein glues.
It was so hilarious
Re: Andreas Levenko - a drama queen ? Did the umpire fail by not red carding him ?
Posted: August 16th, 2025, 5:13 am
by Laetitia
The huge problem with Andreas Levanko’s behavior and why he definitely deserves the suspension is as below .
Andreas has every right to complain . But not to the opponent. If Andres feels his opponents’ racket is unapproved , he should be talking to the umpire ONLY (and even demanding to see the referee). I have seen cases in person before where pips players were bullied by robotNazis s to have their rackets inspected for lengthy period (more than half an hour) in the middle of a match.
But the problem was that Andreas was CONSATNTLY talking to the opponent. So I am reasonable convinced this does not have much to do with opponents’ racket but has everything to do with Andreas; TOTAL incompetence to play against pips styles. Andreas was trying to provoke Nie the entire match but Nie stayed cam cool & collected
The worst part of it was that he was walking along with his opponent and trying to continue to prove him even after the match was over. I am strongly opposed to use of treated pips by pips players just like James Z says here viewtopic.php?p=7133
But it is not because I am a robotNazi but only because Two Wrongs don’t make it a right. But the simple fact is that , for every pips cheater there are 100 booster & spein glue cheaters.
And yet all you hear is how pips players cheat. Why simply because the booster cheats far outnumber pips cheats.
Even in this case the MyTT moderator Next Level has been going around in all forums cleverly complaining about pips cheaters.
Also as a few people have pointed out , the ITTF only hears the complaints of the robotNazis . The pips players are too terrified to speak up & the other few resort to cheating with treated pips. There are non treated real long pips rubbers available & pips players should be challenging the ITTF by attempting to use thee rubbers in sanctioned ITTF tournaments.
So if the ITTF will refuse to allow real long pips for a level & fair playing field but also will allow rampant spein glue & booster cheating unchecked, then it is on ITTF’s conscience, if they have one.
BTW I am not saying or not saying Nie was cheating. I do not know because I did not check the rubber for friction. However on the flip side I do not know if Andreas was also cheating because his racket was probably not tested either. (There is no 100% testing… only random testing for dangerous spein glues and boosters) This is why I also say that a pips player should NEVER submit their racket for visual or mechanical inspection unless there is 100% chemical inspection FIRST for unhealthy illegal spein glues & boosters at all levels of the sport.
Re: Andreas Levenko - a drama queen ? Did the umpire fail by not red carding him ?
Posted: August 18th, 2025, 4:28 am
by Leonie
Was Andreas' racket tested for common law illegal spein glues & boosters ?
Were other players at this tournament tested for common law illegal spein glues & boosters ?
Which should be higher and urgent higher priority for IOC's ITTF (since 1995) ?
Testing for common law illegal spein glues & boosters or testing for treated pips ?
Ok I know IOC's ITTF claims that they do (random) testing for common law illegal spein glues & boosters at big tournaments
Why ? Is the health of lower level amateur player in not important to the IOC ?
Also if not all players are not tested for common law illegal spein glues & boosters but only pips players are tested for treated pips (just because it is much easier to test for treated pips than for common law illegal spein glues & boosters) , does it not tilt the playing field significantly in favor of pips cheats ? Especially given that there are probably 200 glue cheats for every pips treating cheats ?
Re: Andreas Levenko - a drama queen ? Did the umpire fail by not red carding him ?
Posted: August 18th, 2025, 12:12 pm
by Garryd
Is Andreas Levenko a Gandhi or King or Mandela of table tennis , out to save the robotNazis from the cruel pips treat cheats ?
It is interesting to note how much attention his outbursts are drawing in ITTF worship forums like TableTennisDaily
But the crazy aspect of this is that , whenever an incompetent robotNazi complains loud , a terrified ITTF quickly reacts to keep their jobs .
When robotNazis tell the ITTF to jump , ITTF does not ask why
ITTF only asks how high or which cliff to jump from
This was the case when ITTF banned long pips in 1977 when robotNazis whined about Chinese choppers (most notably Liang Geliang)
This was the case when ITTF passed the two color rule of 1983 when robotNazis whined about Hilton, Boggan, Cai etc
This was the case when ITTF passed the 1998 Durban Aspect Ratio reduction regulation when robotNazis punished the wrong group (16 or choppers using Feint Long classic) when they wanted to punish one or two blockers using TSP P1 Curl (classic)
This was the case in 2004 when punished the wrong group (choppers) again with the pip density regulation when ITTF wanted to punish Lie Guoliang
This was the case in 2008 when ITTF punished all the masters (veterans) players when ITTF wanted to punish Dr.Neubauer by setting the friction limit only for pips at 0.5
All the while robotNazis have enjoyed illegal speinGlues and boosters as ITTF just pretended to ban speinGlues in 1995 & boosters in 2008.
Now the robotNazis want ITTF to crack down pips yet again as usual but they still wan to keep enjoying their illegal unhealthy speinGlues & boosters at all levels of the sport with ITTF just faking testing just at higher levels
Go figure
Re: Andreas Levenko - a drama queen ? Did the umpire fail by not red carding him ?
Posted: August 19th, 2025, 1:12 am
by C Herd
Garryd wrote: ↑August 18th, 2025, 12:12 pm
Is Andreas Levenko a Gandhi or King or Mandela of table tennis , out to save the robotNazis from the cruel pips treat cheats ?
I thought it was Bruce Larry ( Rev.LarryHodges )
Re: Andreas Levenko - a drama queen ? Did the umpire fail by not red carding him ?
Posted: August 26th, 2025, 3:35 am
by Adria
Andreas has some videos on YouTube
He should make one on how to play against pips maybe ?
Re: Andreas Levenko - a drama queen ? Did the umpire fail by not red carding him ?
Posted: September 3rd, 2025, 1:34 am
by Stofoulos
Many players go to WTT feeder events thinking it would be easy and get upset when they start losing