Butterfly Feint Long (Classic or First Version)

As most of you may not know for sure, pips rubbers listed on ITTF LARC are 200% functionally useless in the 40+ plastic ball ONLY era. This section is for discussion about older rubbers from 38 mm ball era & 40- celluloid ball ere that may be still more functionally useful in the 40+ plastic ball era than rubbers designed for 40+ plastic ball ONLY era. This section also discusses new rubbers that are not listed on ITTF LARC but are functionally superior to rubbers currently listed on current ITTF LARC. Contrary to popular myth ITTF is NOT the sole supreme authority on table tennis & you are free to use these super functional rubbers as you wish. The question of who will play against you is a just only a matter of who are your true friends in table tennis & not ITTF rules or regulations especially at lower levels & especially in tournaments not affiliated with ITTF (incorrectly referred to as “unsanctioned” tournaments)
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Butterfly Feint Long (Classic or First Version)

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Feint Long was used by all the top pro choppers & most high level to mid level amateurs as well, before ITTF banned this rubber with the Durban 1998 Aspect Ratio Reduction Regulation. This regulation reduced the maximum allowed Aspect Ratio of pips from 1.3 to 1.1 after 1998.
Aspect Ratip refers to the height (or length) divided by width (or diameter) of a pip.

Feint Long will still in the 40+ plastic ball ONLY era much better than the totally useless Feint Long 2 released in the 40- celluloid ball era after 2000 & Feint Long 3 which was released after the 40+ plastic ball ONLY ear after 2014.
Though it would make sense for Butterfly to release a Feint Long 4 version with an Aspect Ratio of around 1.5 & higher pip density. This would make it better suited for choppers in the 40+ plastic ball ONLY era.
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Re: Players using Feint Long during 1998 ban

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Nearly all the top "choppers" (male or female) including the very best were using Feint Long when it was banned in 1998 with the Durban Aspet Ratio Reduction Regulation.

Below is the list of choppers effected (most listed some may be missing)

Men
1. Chen Xinhua (England , Chinese born) Top 10
2. Li Gun Sang (North Korea) Top 10
3. Koji Matsushita (Japan) Top 20
4. Hiroshi Shibutani (Japan) Top 30
5. Matthew Syed (England)Top 30
6. Tomas Nordberg (Sweden) Top 100
7. BK Arunkumar (USA & India)
8. Derek May (USA)

Possibly Adham Sharara himself , then future president of ITTF

Women
1. Lisa Lomas (England)
2. Allison Holt (Englnd)
3. Virginia Sung (USA)
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Re: Players using Feint Long during 1998 ban

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Spin Solver wrote: August 20th, 2023, 2:27 pm Nearly all the top "choppers" (male or female) including the very best were using Feint Long when it was banned in 1998 with the Durban Aspet Ratio Reduction Regulation.

Below is the list of choppers effected (most listed some may be missing)

Men
1. Chen Xinhua (England , Chinese born) Top 10
2. Li Gun Sang (North Korea) Top 10
3. Koji Matsushita (Japan) Top 20
4. Hiroshi Shibutani (Japan) Top 30
5. Matthew Syed (England)Top 30
6. Tomas Nordberg (Sweden) Top 100
7. BK Arunkumar (USA & India)
8. Derek May (USA)

Possibly Adham Sharara himself , then future president of ITTF

Women
1. Lisa Lomas (England)
2. Allison Holt (Englnd)
3. Virginia Sung (USA)
You left out one of the earlier one > ENGELBERT HÜGING
Though he probably was not active in 1998
See this topic
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Re: Butterfly Feint Long (Classic or First Version)

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Another player who was using Feint Long in 1998 when it was banned
Ntanial Tsokas (Greece)
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