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Palguay wrote:Jul 8, 2023 #85
We did a slow motion to show the spin reversal with numbers
Video of Spin Removal Test

Hello sir,
You did a great job of setup & video capture etc.
Below is a table from the end of the video.
If there is a spin loss of like 50% that is a serious spin "removal". It is really not spin "reversal"
Spin "reversal" usually means spin is retained
Long pips are actually supposed to retain the spin in the blocking mode (They will amplify the spin in the choppinh mode............that is the very reason and purpose of invention of long pips in the first place)

So the major problem with the test conditions is that you are just testing one rubber which is actually a blocking type long pips rubber. It is NOT an all round long pips rubber . It is of course definitely NOT a chopping rubber. (Yes the real GOAT of all of tabletennis in his desperate search for the holy grail was indeed stupid enough to try Dtec for chopping. That was truly pathetcic).

Even within one rubber (Dtec here) , the test conditions are not complete.
You have the racket mounted vertically. How about at varying angles with racket mounted both vertically & horizontally, whis more reflective of actual playing conditions ?

However the best test would be to compare Tibhar Dtec against two or three most popular chopping rubbers such as Feint Long 1 & Feint Long 3
Of course the best test would be to use, Magic 77 which is probably the best all around long pips of all time till now *though it can use lots of improvements)
In fact I woul like to see a comparision of Dtec against Giant Dragon's Dragon Talon (poor man's Dtec).

Other good tests would be to compare long pips against anti & short pips & spinverted & supe pips
You have a good set up needed. Just need the dats

However kindly note that any such comparitive tests would be mostly meaningless without testing some super pips like Magic 77, give that ALL the long pips in ITTF LARC including Tibhar Dtec are pieces of garbage in th 40+ plastic ball ONLY era

These tests are really useless for someone who wants to succeed competitively in the 40+ plastic ball ONLY era.
All the rubbers listed on ITTF LARC, including Tibhar Dtec are totally useless in the 40+ plastic ball ONLY era.

Please provide test results comparing Magic 77 OX to Feint Long 3 OX & Tibhar Dtec OX.
This would be the most useful for amateurs.


You are just using Tibhar Dtec because Manika Batra is using it. She should not be using Dtec to start with as it is worthless in the 40+ plastic ball ONLY era. She must be using a blocking type super pips