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It may not be long pips Re: Ba YongBo - pen holder Long pips

Posted: April 2nd, 2025, 8:06 pm
by Savannakhet&
NewDef wrote: on Wednesday 01 January 2025, 06:42

Does anyone have details about this athlete's equipment?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DED1fT7z ... RrcjM5dg==

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VioW-- ... YeB7DmmP8E
If this is an Olympic ITTF TableTennis tournament , he most likely is not using real long pips.
Olympic TableTennis banned the use of long pips even before TableTennis was even admitted to Olympics in 1988.
Long pips were banned by ITTF in 1983. So long pips were never ever even allowed in the Olympics.
Olympic TableTennisonly allows the use of social slim pips (deceptively called "long" pips to fool pips players)

Re: It may not be long pips Re: Ba YongBo - pen holder Long pips

Posted: April 2nd, 2025, 8:32 pm
by aztaryx
Most of the real long pips are only available from Indonesia though almost all of them are designed for "at the table" blockers.
There are a few real long pips available from China
But you have to be careful because some many be treated pips and pips may fall off after even single use. Some of them even admit it it thankfully.

Yinhe Young from Chins is ITTF approved. They come in 2.1 mm and 2.50 mm length.
Not sure how it is ITTF approved because the maximum allowed pip length to be on ITTF LARC is 2.05 mm (it was 2.00 mm till 2024).
Please note that there is very little difference between 2.00 mm and 2.05 mm (It was changed due to other political purposes related to rubber thickness for illegally boosted inverted rubbers and bothing to do with pips, This is a differnt story not discussed in detail here) .
But waht you need to know is 2.05 is almot 2.00 mm and NOT 2.50 mm .

Re: It may not be long pips Re: Ba YongBo - pen holder Long pips

Posted: April 2nd, 2025, 8:33 pm
by Tarlese
There is an enormous difference in back spin production capability of ITTF social pips (limited to 2.05 mm) compared to real (& functionally useful) long pips of 2.50 mm.
There are some Indonesian long pips as long as 3.0 mm. But thi smay be a bit too long.
2.50 mm may be the optimal length.

Re: It may not be long pips Re: Ba YongBo - pen holder Long pips

Posted: April 3rd, 2025, 12:41 pm
by Julif
Why do you need the pip length longer than 2.05 mm ? If ITTF says 2.05 mm is optimal, are they not correct ?