Defensive styles - how many are there ?
Posted: August 25th, 2025, 5:17 am
I am sort of beginner / intermediate and hear talks of defensive players.
Are there many types ?
Are there many types ?
If a player is a true/natural two-wing looper and mostly attacks, chopping less (as Nikolay Telnoy and Satoshi Aida do), then I don't see any problems. But pure defense with two inverted rubbers really is stupid. Too small margin of error. However, in the current reality, when slim pimples are absolutely useless, without chopping with inverted rubber from the forehand, the defender cannot compete normally (just look at Joo Se Hyuk's game after changing the ball to a plastic one. There were almost no mistakes on chops with slim pimples from the opponents, but on his forehand chops, the opponents made mistakes very often)Natha Nmaiva wrote: ↑August 25th, 2025, 5:51 am
1. Spinny inverted rubbers on both sides (forehand & backhand) to mostly chop
Absolutely correct.
Interesting point. Though his forehand chop (with his lethal loops) is what made him the REAL GOAT of all of table tennis , I was always puzzled as to why he rarely twiddled (if any) and chopped with less spinny (relatively speaking) inverted from his backhand & more spinny slim (flex) pips from his forehand as a variation.
I found that interestingDonell wrote: ↑August 26th, 2025, 2:13 amInteresting point. Though his forehand chop (with his lethal loops) is what made him the REAL GOAT of all of table tennis , I was always puzzled as to why he rarely twiddled (if any) and chopped with less spinny (relatively speaking) inverted from his backhand & more spinny slim (flex) pips from his forehand as a variation.
Depends on the characteristics of the wide (stiff) pimples. With something like DMS Spinfire and Victas VO102 spin contrast when playing defense will not be much different from inverted rubber.James Z wrote: ↑August 26th, 2025, 2:24 am
Though the (click link) looper torture index was not as high as with using a spinny inverted / long pips combo due to highest spin contrast of top spin and back spin, the lack of spin on my forehand chops using wide (stiff) pips compared to super heavy chops on my backhand using long (flex) pips really confused even the loopers slightly above my skill level.
So in other words there will be minimum spin contrast between these wide (stiff) pimples and spinny inverted. If that is the case why should I use these wide (stiff) pips especially given its other massive disadvantages of wide (stiff) pips described in this web page ?wehem wrote: ↑August 27th, 2025, 12:18 amDepends on the characteristics of the wide (stiff) pimples. With something like DMS Spinfire and Victas VO102 spin contrast when playing defense will not be much different from inverted rubber.James Z wrote: ↑August 26th, 2025, 2:24 am
Though the (click link) looper torture index was not as high as with using a spinny inverted / long pips combo due to highest spin contrast of top spin and back spin, the lack of spin on my forehand chops using wide (stiff) pips compared to super heavy chops on my backhand using long (flex) pips really confused even the loopers slightly above my skill level.