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Most important blade detail for a chop defender

Posted: December 9th, 2025, 3:50 pm
by Ari 2001
I am an away from the table chop defender intermediate to advanced level still developing in my 20's
I wondered as to what was the most important design detail of a defensive blade
Which manufacturers are the best?

Re: Most important blade detail for a chop defender

Posted: December 14th, 2025, 11:27 pm
by Yuriifi
Ari 2001 wrote: ↑December 9th, 2025, 3:50 pm I am an away from the table chop defender intermediate to advanced level still developing in my 20's
I wondered as to what was the most important design detail of a defensive blade
Most important but also the most neglected design variable is the blade head dimension.
For the larger 40+ mm plastic ball ONLY era , a defensive blade has to be at least 170 mm in both width & length (Ideally 173 mm)
Something similar to cybershape may be ideal

Re: Most important blade detail for a chop defender

Posted: December 14th, 2025, 11:31 pm
by Juan Carlo
Yuriifi wrote: ↑December 14th, 2025, 11:27 pm Most important but also the most neglected design variable is the blade head dimension.
For the larger 40+ mm plastic ball ONLY era , a defensive blade has to be at least 170 mm in both width & length (Ideally 173 mm)
But this would make the blade heavy no ?

Re: Most important blade detail for a chop defender

Posted: December 14th, 2025, 11:34 pm
by Masielaz
Yuriifi wrote: ↑December 14th, 2025, 11:27 pm For the larger 40+ mm plastic ball ONLY era , a defensive blade has to be at least 170 mm in both width & length (Ideally 173 mm)
Something similar to cybershape may be ideal
Why do you need such a large blade size ?

Re: Most important blade detail for a chop defender

Posted: December 15th, 2025, 12:08 am
by Yuriifi
Juan Carlo wrote: ↑December 14th, 2025, 11:31 pm
Yuriifi wrote: ↑December 14th, 2025, 11:27 pm Most important but also the most neglected design variable is the blade head dimension.
For the larger 40+ mm plastic ball ONLY era , a defensive blade has to be at least 170 mm in both width & length (Ideally 173 mm)
But this would make the blade heavy no ?
This is the common myth.
During the early days of 38 mm ball the blade size dropped from the hardbat era. Why ?
Because the sponge made the racket heavier.
If you look at the rackets of some legends like Fernc Sido , Angelica Ronzeau & scores of others the racket size was at least 170 mm .
The lady GOAT Angelica Rozeanu 's racket looks even larger around 173 mm.
This is because during the hardbat era almost all top champions had great defensive skills & Angelica 's style was defensive all around.
Of course in the current top spin only Olympic fake table tennis the emphasis is pure offence

What players overlook is the fact that though the ball size has increased by 2 mm , all the blades are same size from the 38 mm ball era.
This is because since almost all blades are designed for attackers, the designs have been improved to produce faster & more powerful blades for attackers.
But for chop defenders the blade design requirements are very different. However since the robotNazi controlled ITTF has successfully exterminated choppers at least on the men's side (working on women's side.......keep in mind that I think it took about 8 years for the first functional gas chamber to arrive from 1933 to 1941)
The blade needs to be larger to match the dwell time to the 40_ mm plastic ball.
But since the market is almost non existent for chop defender blades , the manufacturer's really don't care.
They continue to claim semi large blades to be oversized blades . Given that choppers are such ignorant fools, they will believe anything the manufacturers & the ITTF says

So getting back to blade heaviness >
The blades were heavier in the 38 mm ball era but since long pips were quickly banned within years at the Birmingham 1977 BGM, the slim pips were still using rubbers with some sponge & the the fact that block defenders need OX rubbers has not come up till as late as mid 2010s when Manika Batra (and 700 million Indian women who follow her) made OX pips fashionable.
But the fact is that for amateur players OX pips are the best whether they are chop defenders or Slim pips block & loop or slim pips block & flat hit style players (though most are block and loop like Manika Batra but few chop-block and smash players like Zhou Xintong were there).
So in these cases the blade weight is not an issue especially for amateur chop defender because they have time when playing away from the table.
For at the table block and loop players who chop block using OX rubbers, the semi large blade may be required for quick hand and wrist movements close to the table.
As far as pro & semi-pro away from the table choppers , they should be able to adopt to some weight given that they are of course better athletes & can manage with lesser time.
But since the pro & semi-pro choppers have been so thoroughly brainwashed by the manufacturers & of course the ITTF , they continue to use crappy useless defensive blades such as Butterfly Matsushita or Nexy Joo Sae Hyuk etc

Re: Most important blade detail for a chop defender

Posted: December 15th, 2025, 2:02 am
by merlin el mago
Masielaz wrote: ↑December 14th, 2025, 11:34 pm
Yuriifi wrote: ↑December 14th, 2025, 11:27 pm For the larger 40+ mm plastic ball ONLY era , a defensive blade has to be at least 170 mm in both width & length (Ideally 173 mm)
Something similar to cybershape may be ideal
Why do you need such a large blade size ?
Usually to enlarge the sweep spot.

Re: Most important blade detail for a chop defender

Posted: December 15th, 2025, 2:03 am
by merlin el mago
Large & weight blades are not good to play close to the table, OK or good for modern defenders playing far from the table.

Re: Most important blade detail for a chop defender

Posted: December 15th, 2025, 9:34 am
by Yuriifi
merlin el mago wrote: ↑December 15th, 2025, 2:03 am Large & weight blades are not good to play close to the table, OK or good for modern defenders playing far from the table.
Thanks
I thought that is exactly what I said in my previous posts referring to Manika Batra etc

Re: Most important blade detail for a chop defender

Posted: December 15th, 2025, 9:35 am
by Yuriifi
merlin el mago wrote: ↑December 15th, 2025, 2:02 am
Masielaz wrote: ↑December 14th, 2025, 11:34 pm
Yuriifi wrote: ↑December 14th, 2025, 11:27 pm For the larger 40+ mm plastic ball ONLY era , a defensive blade has to be at least 170 mm in both width & length (Ideally 173 mm)
Something similar to cybershape may be ideal
Why do you need such a large blade size ?
Usually to enlarge the sweep spot.
Exactly
Well said

Re: Most important blade detail for a chop defender

Posted: December 15th, 2025, 9:20 pm
by merlin el mago
You said: "the semi large blade" and for close to the table large or semi large blades difficult the movements close or inside the table and also don't forget the weight because more weight = more speed so better a lightweight blade.

For increase the sweep spot there are defensive carbon blades not oversized and lightweight like I use The Wall Carbon from The MaterialSpezialist, this blade is DEF+ 7 plies but isn't fast because the wood used and the central ply (core) isn't thick, thick central/core blades usually are more faster.