Reach C801=Victas Curl P1v on steroids ...... Magic 77= Feint Long (classic) on steroids

As most of you may not know for sure, pips rubbers listed on ITTF LARC are 200% functionally useless in the 40+ plastic ball ONLY era. This section is for discussion about older rubbers from 38 mm ball era & 40- celluloid ball ere that may be still more functionally useful in the 40+ plastic ball era than rubbers designed for 40+ plastic ball ONLY era. This section also discusses new rubbers that are not listed on ITTF LARC but are functionally superior to rubbers currently listed on current ITTF LARC. Contrary to popular myth ITTF is NOT the sole supreme authority on table tennis & you are free to use these super functional rubbers as you wish. The question of who will play against you is a just only a matter of who are your true friends in table tennis & not ITTF rules or regulations especially at lower levels & especially in tournaments not affiliated with ITTF (incorrectly referred to as “unsanctioned” tournaments)
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Reach C801=Victas Curl P1v on steroids ...... Magic 77= Feint Long (classic) on steroids

Post by Rontiza »

These are the best blocking & chopping rubbers available for the 40+ plastic ball only era
After the (click link >) 18 rule and regulation changes since 1977 by the (click link >) robotNazis controlled ITTF to limit chopper & blocker pips rubbers

Note : "on steroids" is not meant literally but only just functionally.
Neither Reach C801 nor Magic 77 are chemically treated rubbers.
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Re: Reach C801=Victas Curl P1v on steroids ...... Magic 77= Feint Long (classic) on steroids

Post by merlin el mago »

I own both:

Reach C-801 harder pips difficult to flex so better for play close to the table, pip seems a little bit longer than Magic77, aren't slim flex pips to chop away the table.

Magic77 nos as harder like the Reach c-801 but still difficult to flex so not the same like Feint Long, this can be more all round, note that are not slim flex pips to chop far away the table that are the best for classical defense.

If you are looking long pip for classical defense my advice buy Reach C-8, far easy than C801 & a lot of more effective.
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Re: Reach C801=Victas Curl P1v on steroids ...... Magic 77= Feint Long (classic) on steroids

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Problem is that Tournament Directors are refusing to allow non-ITTF-LARC rubbers
Even though these are not ITTF sanctioned tournaments
As far as I know any tournamnet director for a tournamnet that is NOT listed on ITTF calendar can allow non-ITTF-LARC rubbers if they choose to.
But they refuse, even though they all gladly allow illegal boosters / speed glues
Very unfair & very frustrating
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Re: Reach C801=Victas Curl P1v on steroids ...... Magic 77= Feint Long (classic) on steroids

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Cora wrote: ↑August 2nd, 2026, 10:25 pm Problem is that Tournament Directors are refusing to allow non-ITTF-LARC rubbers
Even though these are not ITTF sanctioned tournaments
As far as I know any tournamnet director for a tournamnet that is NOT listed on ITTF calendar can allow non-ITTF-LARC rubbers if they choose to.
But they refuse, even though they all gladly allow illegal boosters / speed glues
Very unfair & very frustrating
This is true.
However since choppers are a small in number compared to large number of booster cheats & since choppers are also are also totally clueless spineless morons and do not understand all this, tournamnet directors choose booster cheats over choppers .
If you apply ITTF rules to booster cheats you will almost have no players left LOL
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Re: Reach C801=Victas Curl P1v on steroids ...... Magic 77= Feint Long (classic) on steroids

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But I thought ITTF rules carried over to ITTF affiliates
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Spongy wrote: ↑August 2nd, 2026, 10:32 pm But I thought ITTF rules carried over to ITTF affiliates
Well you thought wrong :roll:
ITTF affiliates are not mandated to apply each and every ITTF rule & regulation unless it is an ITTF sanctioned tournaments (listed on ITTF calendar)
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Re: Reach C801=Victas Curl P1v on steroids ...... Magic 77= Feint Long (classic) on steroids

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merlin el mago wrote: ↑August 2nd, 2026, 7:40 pm If you are looking long pip for classical defense my advice buy Reach C-8, far easy than C801 & a lot of more effective.
Thank you
But tell me difference in pip length and diameter for C8 and C801 please
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Re: Reach C801=Victas Curl P1v on steroids ...... Magic 77= Feint Long (classic) on steroids

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REACH C8 (also labeled as C801) long pips table tennis rubber features a pimple (particle) height of 2.5 mm to 3.0 mm and a pimple diameter of approximately 2.45 mm to 2.5 mm, depending on the exact manufacturing batch and version.
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Re: Reach C801=Victas Curl P1v on steroids ...... Magic 77= Feint Long (classic) on steroids

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merlin el mago wrote: ↑August 11th, 2026, 6:40 pm REACH C8 (also labeled as C801) long pips table tennis rubber features a pimple (particle) height of 2.5 mm to 3.0 mm and a pimple diameter of approximately 2.45 mm to 2.5 mm, depending on the exact manufacturing batch and version.
What do you mean diferent
Which version would you recommend for a close to table block-chop style
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There are two versions of Reach C8, one 2.5mm high (old) and the other 3.0mm high (new).
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Re: Reach C801=Victas Curl P1v on steroids ...... Magic 77= Feint Long (classic) on steroids

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merlin el mago wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2026, 6:54 pm There are two versions of Reach C8, one 2.5mm high (old) and the other 3.0mm high (new).
Thanks for tip.
I took your advice and search in Ali Express
I seen no different . Sorry my fault
May I ask you for linkage
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Thanks again as usual.
These links are very useful
BTW it looks like the one with higher pip length of 3.0 mm is called c-801 it seems , if I am not mistaken
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Re: Reach C801=Victas Curl P1v on steroids ...... Magic 77= Feint Long (classic) on steroids

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As you know Chinese products are not always well described so package red is C-8 & package blue is C-801.
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