Looper torture index : How to perform a proper comparison test > ITTF slim pips vs non-ITTF actual long pips

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Playing Style: Classic defender
Grip: Shakehand
Cohort: Masters (Veterans)
My blade: Custom
Blade Type: Smart Blade
Side F rubber brand: Yasaka Mark V
Side F rubber type: Spinny inverted (incorrectly called 'in' on on ITTF LARC)
Side B rubber brand: Magic 77
Side B rubber type: Non-ITTF actual long pips (functional)
Orientation: All spins diversity table tennis using smart racket

Looper torture index : How to perform a proper comparison test > ITTF slim pips vs non-ITTF actual long pips

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Before you delve into this test you need to understand why this test is essential for TOATLLY clueless choppers who support ITTF & do not understand ITTF corruption and robotNazi brainwashing

To start, choppers need to get this in their heads first > There are no actual "long" pips in ITTF table tennis.
ITTF banned all long pips at the 1977 Birmingham BGM (This is known as the Chopper Massacre 1 ..... Chopper massacre 2 happened in 1998) to place severe limits on chopping & backspin capabilities of pips rubbers.
Since 1977 the robotNazis controlled ITTF has pass (click link >) 18 rule and regulation changes that limit the backspin capabilities of choppers . Some of these rule changes were directly aimed at chop defender . Others at block defenders. Other changes apply indirectly as we are in the 40+ plastic ball only era of table tennis .
There is a lot more to story of ITTF corruption but we will discuss this separately.
Anyway if you want to understand the details of what is a slim pips rubber compared to an acual long pips rubber, please visit this webpage below
Pip aspect ratio calculations
The website All Spins Table tennis also contains other important advanced information about pips etc

For now let us stick to the comparison test.

Let us assume you wan to compare a non-ITTF actual long pips rubber such as Magic 77 against a, ITTF LARC slim pips such as Feint Long 2 or 3 or Victas P1 Curl or KTL Stranger OX .
I chose these 3 rubbers because all clueless choppers are under the delusion that Feint Long 2 or 3 & Victas Curl P1 are some sort Godsent rubbers for choppers. Fact is that they are complete joke in the 40+ plastic ball only era. KTL Stranger is the best all around slim pips rubber but it is also a complete joke in the 40+ plastic ball era for choppers.

To perform the comparison test you need two identical rackets except that the pips rubbers will be different
That is both rubbers will have the same blade & same rubber on the other side than these pips rubbers (It is usually a spinny inverted rubber with thick sponge or wide pips rubber with thick sponge, the wide pips is what I would recommend)
The only difference on these rackets is that you will have Magic 77 OX on one racket & either Feint Long 2 or 3 OX or TSP Curl P1 OX etc. on other side.
I also recommend using a truly oversized (at least 172mm by 172 mm width and length) custom smart blade & not a tiny mass produced dumb blade for both rackets.

Now you want to test these two rackets against the same exact set of 3 or 4 looper opponents.

The only problem is that this test is not valid against opponents if they are below a rating of around at least USATT 1700 or more.
Why ? Because players below this level are usually very weak against pips and also cannot generate enough top spin to notice any significant difference in performance.
Of course the test will become more valid if the test set of opponents are all rated over USATT 2200
You will begin to understand how low the Looper Torture Index of ITTF slim pips is compared to actual ITTF long pips & you as a chopper will begin to understand & appreciate the full level of the depths of depravity that the robotNazis controlled ITTF has sunk to since 1977 with its 18 rule & regulation changes to limit choppers,

This is when you as a chopper, will begin to notice significant difference in performance & why ITTF slim pips are a complete joke & rubbers like Feint Long 2 or 3 or Victas Curl P1 are totally useless pure ass wipes in the 40+ plastic ball only era

The unfortunate part of all this is that Feint Long Classic (not 2 or 3) was one of the best slim pips rubbers of all time & used by almost all choppers before 1999 when became a collateral damage when ITTF passed the Durban 1998 Aspect Ratio Reduction (Chopper Masascre 2) regulation to punish TSP Curl P1 (& Tibhar Grass Long etc.)
Note : Chopper Massacre 1 was total ban on ALL long pips at the Birmingham 1977 BGM
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James Z
Posts: 296
Joined: August 31st, 2022, 7:44 pm
Country: Deutschland Germany
City & State: Rottweil
Playing Style: Classic defender
Grip: Shakehand
Cohort: Masters (Veterans)
My blade: Custom
Blade Type: Smart Blade
Side F rubber brand: Yasaka Mark V
Side F rubber type: Spinny inverted (incorrectly called 'in' on on ITTF LARC)
Side B rubber brand: Magic 77
Side B rubber type: Non-ITTF actual long pips (functional)
Orientation: All spins diversity table tennis using smart racket

Re: Looper torture index : How to perform a proper comparison test > ITTF slim pips vs non-ITTF actual long pips

Post by James Z »

A similar comparison test can also be performed for block defender ITTF slim pips ass wipe rubber Tibhar Dtec Grass against tons of both treated slim pips & non-treated actual long pips almost all of which are from Indonesia (& few from China).
Personally I do not support treated pips because it is unethical & just because robotNazis use common law illegal boosters & spein glues, it does not justify you using treated pips. Two wrongs don't make a right. RobotNazis are using this fact some pips players use treated pips to justify their using lethal boosters & spein glues (though there probably are 200 booster cheats for every pips treat cheat given how rampant booster cheating is at all levels of the sport)

My suggestion for all block defenders would be to use non-treated pips (but actual long pips).

In both cases (choppers or blockers) if you use only non-treated pips but ITTF refuses to allow you to play in ITTF tournaments but would allow rampant booster cheating to continue , it is on IOC(& the ITTF)'s conscience and not on you.
But if you use boosting by loopers as an excuse for you using treated pips , then you are the one at fault& not the IOC (ITTF)

BTW treated pips are of no use to choppers. Choppers want a high control (low disruption rubber).
Treated pips are useful only to blockers because of disruption it provides. But if you are a blocker you should able to find a non-treated pips far more easily than a chopper can find a high back spin chopping rubber (non exists in ITTF LARC & Magic 77 is the only non-ITTF true long pips I am aware of .... there may be one or two Indonesian true chopping long pips but I have not tested them)
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