Potential real long pips from Indonesia for REAL choppers >> Sabotase & RAWARONTEXX

As most of you may not know for sure, pips rubbers listed on ITTF LARC are 200% functionally useless in the 40+ plastic ball ONLY era. This section is for discussion about older rubbers from 38 mm ball era & 40- celluloid ball ere that may be still more functionally useful in the 40+ plastic ball era than rubbers designed for 40+ plastic ball ONLY era. This section also discusses new rubbers that are not listed on ITTF LARC but are functionally superior to rubbers currently listed on current ITTF LARC. Contrary to popular myth ITTF is NOT the sole supreme authority on table tennis & you are free to use these super functional rubbers as you wish. The question of who will play against you is a just only a matter of who are your true friends in table tennis & not ITTF rules or regulations especially at lower levels & especially in tournaments not affiliated with ITTF (incorrectly referred to as “unsanctioned” tournaments)
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James Z
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Potential real long pips from Indonesia for REAL choppers >> Sabotase & RAWARONTEXX

Post by James Z »

I have not tested these two rubbers but these two seem to have some potential based on their primary listed pips design parameters.
Most others seem to be for blockers because the pip density seems to be low and or the pip tops are too frcitionless

Click on link 1 > RAWARONTEXX
Click on link 2 > RAWARONTEXX

Pip length: 3mm
Pip diameter: 1.6mm
Aspect Ratio = 1.875 (3 mm/1.6 mm)
Distance between pips : 1.5mm (Good pip density . May be good for choppers for higher back spin)

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Click on link 1 > Sabotase
Click on link 2 > Sabotase
Pip length 3.2mm
Pip diameter 2mm
Aspect Ratio = 1.6 (3.2 mm/2 mm)
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Re: Potential real long pips from Indonesia for REAL choppers >> Sabotase & RAWARONTEXX

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I will see if I can order a bunch of these to test two items & few others & then post the results of test.
There seems to be tons of suppliers for each of these real long pips. I have no idea which of these are good at overseas shipping or are not shady sites
I am very surprised no one has taken up distributing these in places other than South East Asian especially in Europe.

Even if you are too much of a sissy to try to use these in ITTF touurnaments or even leagues, it wouldne great for pips players , especially choppers to clearly undestand how much the ITTF is ripping you off by performing comparison tests against the useless slim pips on ITTF LARC

If you any of you have played with these rubbers, please post a review here
Last edited by James Z on March 17th, 2025, 8:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
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James Z
Posts: 151
Joined: August 31st, 2022, 7:44 pm
Country: Germany
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My blade: Custom
Forehand Rubber: Yasaka Mark V
Backhand Rubber: Magic 77
Playing Style: Classic defender
Grip: Shakehand

Re: Potential real long pips from Indonesia for REAL choppers >> Sabotase & RAWARONTEXX

Post by James Z »

Most of these rubbers also seem to be availanle in at lest four colors red , black, green and blue
Some may be available in pink & violet
Some were in yellow as well
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