Best rubbers for ( away from the table ) choppers before & after 1999

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Best rubbers for ( away from the table ) choppers before & after 1999

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Before 1999

Feint Long Classic Version
Juic Leggy Classic Version

After 1999

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Re: Best rubbers for ( away from the table ) choppers before & after 1999

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tame kaio 16 wrote: June 28th, 2022, 2:04 pm Feint Long Classic Version
Juic Leggy Classic Version
Are these long pips ?
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Re:Best rubbers for ( away from the table ) choppers before & after 1999

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Inga G wrote: March 31st, 2025, 4:00 pm
tame kaio 16 wrote: June 28th, 2022, 2:04 pm Feint Long Classic Version
Juic Leggy Classic Version
Are these long pips ?
The sad answer is No.
I was incredibly stupid to have believed for more than 45 years that long pips existed in table tennis when started playing a lot.

In all fairness to myself (retired former chopper) and the other chopper morons who cotinue to believe that there are long pips in Olympic's ITTF version of table tennis, ITTF has done an outstanding job of brainwashing pips players.

So why are the above 2 rubbers (& anything that came later) are NOT long pips ?

They are not long pips because ITTF banned all long pips around 1983 but cleverly continued the other pips it allowed as long pips.
But there are 2 simple facts everyone overlooks & have no clue about (this included me as well, since only a few months ago) .

1. ITTF set the maximum allowed pip length at 2.00 mm around 1983. Ther were few long pips available before 1983 (though not well known)

2. The maximum allowed pip length for any pips (whatever ITTF called them such as out & long is 2.00 mm. It is not like the maximum allowed pip length for short pips (called out on ITTF LARC) is less than 2.00 mm. Thus the only difference between so called short pips and long pips is not the length (or height) of pips but rather the width (or diameter) of the pips . Why ? Because to confuse the pips players more ITTF introduced a parameter called the Aspect Ratio . ITTF claimed that the rubbers less than aspect Ratio of 0.89 are short pips & between 0.89 & 1.3 was long pips (This was reduced from 1.3 to 1.1 in 1998) .

Yes Feint Long (Classic) was the rubber chosen by like 99% all the (clueless) choppers (pro / semi-pro down to advanced players) but that did not mean it was long pips. ITTF just called it long pips to confuse the choppers.
Also keep in mind that it was during the 38 mm ball era. So Feint long (& Juic Leggy etc) were reasonably useful in the 38 mm ball era.
All this changed in 1998 when ITTF reduced the maximum allowed Aspect Ratio of so called long pips from 1.3 to 1.1.
There were lot more rule & regulation changes after that aimed to severely limit the choppers.
Here are those (click link) 12 rule and regulation changes after 1983 to oppress choppers.
So in summary , there are no long pips in Olympic’s ITTF version of TableTennis.
The proper name for the rubbers that ITTF calls out on their LARC is actually wide (or stiff) pips and the rubbers ITTF deceptively calls as long pips are actually slim (or flex) pips,
I know this can sound extremely confusing but you have to think thru this carefully to fully comprehend ITTF’s amazing deception and fraud.
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